Posts by Vanderhoven7

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Sign of the Last Days

by Fisherman in

in the sermon on the mount, jesus foretold that earthquakes “in one place after another” would be part of the sign of the last days clímaxing in the great tribulation.. what could jesus possibly have meant?

using a phone app nowadays, there are earthquakes detected in one place after another but is this what jesus meant and did they have so many earthquakes throughout the centuries affter his prophecy or are these modern day detected earthquakes unique to this epoch?

how can we be sure unequivocally that modern day earthquakes are part of the sign fulfilling bible prophecy?.

Vanderhoven7

Hi Sue,

So the composite sign Jesus gave wasn't really about wars and rumours of wars and nation rising against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

He was really saying you will know that I am present when you see a significant increase in the conflict between good and evil, a widespread absence of spiritual truth, spiritual sickness and mental disease and political upheavals in different places....which all clearly came to pass starting in 1914.

Do you have any confirmation of this symbolism in the Watchtower or Awake?

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Sign of the Last Days

by Fisherman in

in the sermon on the mount, jesus foretold that earthquakes “in one place after another” would be part of the sign of the last days clímaxing in the great tribulation.. what could jesus possibly have meant?

using a phone app nowadays, there are earthquakes detected in one place after another but is this what jesus meant and did they have so many earthquakes throughout the centuries affter his prophecy or are these modern day detected earthquakes unique to this epoch?

how can we be sure unequivocally that modern day earthquakes are part of the sign fulfilling bible prophecy?.

Vanderhoven7

Hi Sue,

And wars symbolize ?

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Sign of the Last Days

by Fisherman in

in the sermon on the mount, jesus foretold that earthquakes “in one place after another” would be part of the sign of the last days clímaxing in the great tribulation.. what could jesus possibly have meant?

using a phone app nowadays, there are earthquakes detected in one place after another but is this what jesus meant and did they have so many earthquakes throughout the centuries affter his prophecy or are these modern day detected earthquakes unique to this epoch?

how can we be sure unequivocally that modern day earthquakes are part of the sign fulfilling bible prophecy?.

Vanderhoven7

OK! What do wars, famines and pestilences symbolize?

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Sign of the Last Days

by Fisherman in

in the sermon on the mount, jesus foretold that earthquakes “in one place after another” would be part of the sign of the last days clímaxing in the great tribulation.. what could jesus possibly have meant?

using a phone app nowadays, there are earthquakes detected in one place after another but is this what jesus meant and did they have so many earthquakes throughout the centuries affter his prophecy or are these modern day detected earthquakes unique to this epoch?

how can we be sure unequivocally that modern day earthquakes are part of the sign fulfilling bible prophecy?.

Vanderhoven7

@ Fisherman

You mention earthquakes. Has there been an unprecedented increase in the number, severity and/or loss of life from earthquakes etc. since 1914?

If an escalation since 1914 in earthquake frequency, severity and human loss are a sign of Christ's presence, then logically their diminishing since 1914 can only witness to his non-presence.

A comparison of earthquake victims 1715-1783 vrs. 1915-1983

The annual average deaths caused by earthquakes worldwide

- from 1715 - 1783 (68 years) was 19,911.

- from 1915 - 1983 (68 years) was 17,545

nb. given that the population during the 20th century was 6 times that of the 18th century, earthquakes of 18th century, in terms of ratio of human destruction, far surpasses that of the 20th century.

nb. the annual average deaths caused by earthquakes in the 68 years preceding 1914 was between 17,149 and 18, 671 Do earthquakes, give us any indication or sign that Christ returned in 1914?

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Is Tony Morris a Nonce / Pedophile

by MebyonKernow in

jw
friends

this has just been posted on youtube regarding tony morris and the reason why he was removed as a gb member and 'relocated'.is tony morris a pedophile / nonce?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ahj9vxygkelet me know your thoughts down below.celtic.

Vanderhoven7

Ha, I'm preaching on standing (Eph 6) on Sunday morning.

What does standing mean in the context of Christian warfare?

It means you haven't lost your faith, peace...joy....cool

It means you know God is still on the throne

It means you know that greater is He that is in you...

You stand by faith...in the word of God,

You stand by faith... in the promises of God

You stand by faith...in the faithfulness of God.

You stand by faith... in the work of God.

In other words...you stand by faith in the gospel of Christ

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Is Tony Morris a Nonce / Pedophile

by MebyonKernow in

jw
friends

this has just been posted on youtube regarding tony morris and the reason why he was removed as a gb member and 'relocated'.is tony morris a pedophile / nonce?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ahj9vxygkelet me know your thoughts down below.celtic.

Vanderhoven7

I stand corrected.

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Is Tony Morris a Nonce / Pedophile

by MebyonKernow in

jw
friends

this has just been posted on youtube regarding tony morris and the reason why he was removed as a gb member and 'relocated'.is tony morris a pedophile / nonce?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ahj9vxygkelet me know your thoughts down below.celtic.

Vanderhoven7

I think their main interest is protecting Jehovah's Governing Body.

Remember Sheba son of Bicri! (2 Sam,20:21)

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FACT: The "faithful slave" was personally selected in 1919......

by BoogerMan in

.........by the elite in the wtbts, who then became the self-proclaimed "faithful slave.

" (sans divine interference!).

as attested to countless times in decades worth of literature.. all succeeding members were then "personally selected" by existing "slave" members.

Vanderhoven7

And none of the original appointees, who were proclaiming Pastor Russell as the Slave, ever claimed that office. It was only in 2012 that the GB realized who was appointed and when. Of course the truth is that Joseph Smith was appointed to restore the priesthood in 1831 when Jesus and Father God commissioned him in a vision.

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Could this be the end of JWs? What are the consequences if it is?

by Teddnzo in

multiple very serious allegations against tony and then huge efforts to remove him from all pictures and videos, have to admit it doesn’t look good.. once the pennsylvania investigation becomes public knowledge and front page news it will be very very hard for 8 million pimis.. is it possible that this could be the largest problem the branch has ever faced?

larger than 1975, the overlapping generations or any other ‘test of faith’.

many will feel heartbroken and betrayed.

Vanderhoven7

https://youtu.be/Afo6-Iyj_mk?si=rXVTUQCT3liL4IZC

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Are Elders prepared to take the fall for WT/GB misdemeanor's / crime ??

by smiddy3 in

i have been thinking about this in relation to the directive given to elders to destroy any incriminating evidence they may have either on their pc`s ,e-mails , private notes in their possession, or notes in their witnessing bags ,etc.

to do with child sexual abuse they may still have in their possession.. isn`t that encouraging the elders to interfere with the justice system ?.

to break the law?.

Vanderhoven7

Posted Grabt Davis' cautionary comments on the other thread as well...

"Selena also said that Tony Morris’ match illustration was an instruction to burn her house down. Something she claims has happened to her twice.

She also said that she was asked if she wanted to help cover up CSA.

She also said that Watchtower regularly kills people and gets Google to cover it up.

She says that Watchtower has tried to poison her numerous times.

I really think that submitting anything speculative about TM3 when reporting the claims of someone who obviously has problems, hampers apostate moves in presenting verifiable facts.

I have little doubt that this is a woman who might well have been abused, but looking at her weird videos and super extraordinary claims, puts an invaluable slant on the veracity of her claims.