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  The everlasting saga of The faithful and discreet slave class.

  by MacHislopp in

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  at the 128th annual meeting of the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, on october 6 th 2012 .

  during this meeting “food at the proper time” was given and the most important, was given during a symposium of six talks by members of the governing body—brothers jackson, lösch, pierce, herd, lett, and splane— which analyzed and discussed the meaning of jesus’ words recorded at.

  " (matthew 24: 45, 46) it must be conceded, then, that at the end ot the world, at the "time of the end", during the presence of the lord, during the harvest, he would have in the earth a servant who would be faithful and wise.

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  Jehovah's Witnesses are classified as a doomsday anti-Christ cult that take their direction from men.

  
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  Ten reasons Jehovah’s Witnesses have the true religion (plus a bonus one)

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thinking back when i was a true believer these are probably the top ten reasons why i believed jws are the true religion.

  1. they show love among themselves by not going to war.

  not killing your fellow believers in any circumstances, including war, would seem to be a very basic requirement for true christianity.

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  They are guilty of

  a. writing themselves into the salvation formula

  b. claiming they are Jehovah's unique channel of communication

  c. asserting that no one who rejects their authority is a real Christian

  d. determining that 99% of those martyred for the name of Christ prior to the 20th century were only professed Christians

  e. denying all the benefits of justification to 8 million so called modern other sheep

  f. mandating shunning of former Jehovah's Witnesses

  Add to that:

  They preach a non-salvific gospel and an unrelatable Jesus.
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  The everlasting saga of The faithful and discreet slave class.

  by MacHislopp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at the 128th annual meeting of the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, on october 6 th 2012 .

  during this meeting “food at the proper time” was given and the most important, was given during a symposium of six talks by members of the governing body—brothers jackson, lösch, pierce, herd, lett, and splane— which analyzed and discussed the meaning of jesus’ words recorded at.

  " (matthew 24: 45, 46) it must be conceded, then, that at the end ot the world, at the "time of the end", during the presence of the lord, during the harvest, he would have in the earth a servant who would be faithful and wise.

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  Menacing Minstrel writes

  
  

  Jws have been indoctrinated to believe that their 9 leaders in Warwick, NY are this alleged “slave”. Who indoctrinated them to believe this? Well, those 9 leaders in Warwick, NY of course. How better to control 8.5 million people and live as parasites off the financial donations of those 8.5 million than for them to appoint themselves into this role.

  
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  JEHOVAH'S WITNESS STUPID: a special category of ignorance

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  worse than being stupid is thinking you are smart while you are stupid.. i should know.. for many years i was a special category of "stupid"; i was jehovah's witness stupid.. .

  what does that entail?

  listen and i'll tell you.. ___________________________________________________________.

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  Jehovah's Witnesses encourage their members

  

  
  

  
  
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  Questionable Claims and/or Actions of The Governing Body

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  here are a few of the questionable claims and actions of the gb that i have noticed:.

  a. writing themselves into the salvation formula.

  b. claiming they are jehovah's unique channel of communication.

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  Here are a few of the questionable claims and actions of the GB that I have noticed:

  a. writing themselves into the salvation formula

  b. claiming they are Jehovah's unique channel of communication

  c. asserting that no one who rejects their authority is a real Christian

  d. determining that 99% of those martyred for the name of Christ prior to the 20th century were only professed Christians

  e. denying all the benefits of justification to 8 million so called modern other sheep

  f. mandating shunning of former Jehovah's Witnesses

  g. claiming that those who don’t trust them, don’t trust Jehovah.

  Please add to this list.
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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
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  say it ain’t so!

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  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  Gotta stop counting the anointed.
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  Mandated Shunning is a Crime

  by Lee Marsh in

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  mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.

  shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.

  mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.

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  Norway had the right idea to deal with mandated shunning. Remove their charitable status.
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  WHEN WILL THE ANOINTED BE TAKEN TO HEAVEN

  by raymond frantz in

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  https://youtu.be/sptboe8_kuc?si=cnb837qqdlm1glx0.

  this is a question that has preoccupied the minds of the governing body " when will the last anointed be taken up to heaven?

  " when did this nonsense begin ?

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  Thanks for the correction Earnest. Now, as with other things, "We just don't know." applies. Add to that, "but we pretended to know for the past 70 years".
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  WHEN WILL THE ANOINTED BE TAKEN TO HEAVEN

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/sptboe8_kuc?si=cnb837qqdlm1glx0.

  this is a question that has preoccupied the minds of the governing body " when will the last anointed be taken up to heaven?

  " when did this nonsense begin ?

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  Saint Peter apparently was raised in the spring of 1918.

  1918: This year is critical to current Watch Tower eschatology. Firstly, in the spring of 1918, the first resurrection commenced and the apostles and faithful anointed ones who had died were raised invisibly to heavenly life.

  “The resurrection of the anointed Christians, who number 144,000, is to spirit life in heaven and it began to occur in 1918 C.E., after the establishment of the heavenly Kingdom in 1914.“ WT June 1, 1970 p. 331 "Faith to the Preserving Alive of the Soul”

  “In 1918 he (the apostle Peter) was resurrected to the heavens along with the other faithful members of Christ’s congregation who had died prior to that time. “(WT February 15, 1966 p. 123 “Does Peter Now Use the Keys of the Kingdom?”

  “Those who died prior to the establishment of the Kingdom were resurrected at the time of Jehovah's coming to the temple with his messenger of the covenant in 1918.” WT 67 8/1 p. 455 A New Administration of Earth's Affairs

  “The Watchtower has long presented the view that this resurrection of anointed Christians from death commenced in the year 1918.” WT 86 10/1 p. 14 Comfort From the God of Peace

  Curiously though, for close to 50 years prior to 1927, the Watch Tower Society, based on other eschatological calculations, taught that the first resurrection began in 1878.

  In 1878 the process of setting up the kingdom began. The Lord raised the sleeping saints. WT 6/1/1922, p.174

  Our Lord's resurrection occurred three and a half years after his advent as the Messiah, in A.D. 29; and the resurrection of his body, the Church, we have seen, was due in the year 1878, three and a half years after his second advent, in October 1874." Thy Kingdom Come p. 305

  
  

  It was only in 1927 that that the date for the first resurrection was changed to 1918

  "One of the many enlightening truths that God now gave his witnesses was about the members of God's spiritual nation who had died physically. This was in 1927. In that year the witnesses understood that the dead spiritual Israelites had been raised in 1918 to life in heaven with Christ Jesus. It was an invisible resurrection, of course." From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained p.192

  
  
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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  say it ain’t so!

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  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  Such a major change would be a disappointing blow to the rank and file that I think would result in serious hemorrhaging.