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  Cite one scripture in the N.T. that chargers Christians to be witnesses of / for Jehovah.....Not one.using K.I ./ WTB&TS

  by smiddy3 in

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  i think the wtb&ts publication titled "the kingdom interlinear of the christian greek scriptures" speaks for itself.. the word for word translation of the greek into english.. that publication does not even contain the name or word jehovah either in hebrew letters or greek letters anywhere in the word for word texts.. their is not one scripture in the n.t.

  where christians ,followers of jesus christ are instructed to be witnesses of jehovah ,however there are something like twenty scriptures that explicitly state followers of jesus christ are to be witnesses of, for, and about jesus...

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  Vanderhoven7

  Here is an interesting article that sheds light on the question: Was the name Jehovah removed from the New Testament and does it matter?

  https://carm.org/was-jehovahs-name-removed-from-the-new-testament-does-it-matter
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  Reaching out

  by Reg andeson in

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  hi everyone my name is reg anderson i am from new brunswick canada.

  i have currently relocated to toronto canada.

  i am currntly working in downtown toronto .

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  Vanderhoven7

  Sad to say...I think Reg has abandoned ship...needy, vulnerable and afraid.

  Wishing you the best Reg. May you find the peace and fellowship you need while in Toronto.
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  Cite one scripture in the N.T. that chargers Christians to be witnesses of / for Jehovah.....Not one.using K.I ./ WTB&TS

  by smiddy3 in

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  i think the wtb&ts publication titled "the kingdom interlinear of the christian greek scriptures" speaks for itself.. the word for word translation of the greek into english.. that publication does not even contain the name or word jehovah either in hebrew letters or greek letters anywhere in the word for word texts.. their is not one scripture in the n.t.

  where christians ,followers of jesus christ are instructed to be witnesses of jehovah ,however there are something like twenty scriptures that explicitly state followers of jesus christ are to be witnesses of, for, and about jesus...

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  Vanderhoven7

  Hi Slim

  You quote Acts 2:32–36 presumably from the NWT

  God resurrected this Jesus, and of this we are all witnesses. Therefore, because he was exalted to the right hand of God and received the promised holy spirit from the Father, he has poured out what you see and hear. For David did not ascend to the heavens, but he himself says, ‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”’ Therefore, let all the house of Israel know for a certainty that God made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you executed on a stake.”

  JWs feel free to substitute the doubtful name "Jehovah" in the NT where the unpronounceable Tetragrammaton is found in OT passages. In fact they add the name "Jehovah" 327 times to the NT...when the majority of these self serving additions are not even based on OT quotations.

  Unfortunately however, as William Cetnar demonstrated, the WT has failed to be consistent in its application of the divine name to NT passages that include quotations from the OT.

  For example consistency would yield the following

  1 Peter 3:15 quoted from Isaiah. 8:12 - But sanctify the Christ as Jehovah in your hearts.

  Phil 2:10-11 quoted from Isaiah 45:23 - "...so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend... and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Jehovah to the glory of God the Father."

  1 Peter 2:3 quoted from Psalm 34:8 - "...provided you have tasted that Jehovah is kind. Coming to him as to a living stone, rejected, it is true, by men, but chosen, precious, with God,"

  Hebrews 1:10 quoted from Psalms 102:25 - "And: "You at the beginning, O Jehovah, laid the foundation of the earth itself."

  Let's review: The doubtful name "Jehovah" is not found once in the OT, nor once in the NT, nor is the Tetragrammaton found once in the NT. And over half the 327 times the NWT imposes the name "Jehovah" on NT passages, no precedent is provided from the OT. It is never found on the lips of Jesus, or the disciples or the apostle Paul. The name is hidden throughout the Bible. Christians are told to address God as "Father" for that is the intimate relationship He desires for all His children. Jesus, like His Father, did not make the name "Jehovah" known to anyone. Rather He made God's person, nature and attributes known to His followers by both word and action.
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  Reaching out

  by Reg andeson in

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  hi everyone my name is reg anderson i am from new brunswick canada.

  i have currently relocated to toronto canada.

  i am currntly working in downtown toronto .

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  Vanderhoven7

  Hi Reg,

  Welcome to the forum!

  I was never a Witness but have been interested learning about WT religion since I was a teenager.

  I'd be interested in hearing your story as I'm sure many others on this forum would be also.
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  Is the Watchtower God's Organization?

  by Atlantis in

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  watchtower 1953, may 1st, pg.284, par.16.

  16 is the watch tower bible and tract society god’s woman or universal organization?

  scan: https://docdro.id/qiltnwd: .

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  Vanderhoven7

  Nice find. Good question to ask visiting JWs.
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  Trump Urges Ukraine and China To Investigate Joe Biden and His Son

  by minimus in

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  lol, president trump is clearly putting it out that he’s not too scared of impeachment..

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  Vanderhoven7

  Why can't the righteous Democrats wait till the next election instead of wasting time and taxpayer money trying to oust a duly elected president?
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  Trump Urges Ukraine and China To Investigate Joe Biden and His Son

  by minimus in

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  lol, president trump is clearly putting it out that he’s not too scared of impeachment..

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  Vanderhoven7

  I know the Democrats would never stoop so low as to ask anyone to find dirt on Trump.
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  Cite one scripture in the N.T. that chargers Christians to be witnesses of / for Jehovah.....Not one.using K.I ./ WTB&TS

  by smiddy3 in

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  i think the wtb&ts publication titled "the kingdom interlinear of the christian greek scriptures" speaks for itself.. the word for word translation of the greek into english.. that publication does not even contain the name or word jehovah either in hebrew letters or greek letters anywhere in the word for word texts.. their is not one scripture in the n.t.

  where christians ,followers of jesus christ are instructed to be witnesses of jehovah ,however there are something like twenty scriptures that explicitly state followers of jesus christ are to be witnesses of, for, and about jesus...

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  Vanderhoven7

  Hi JA

  Let me repeat myself... Because "Jehovah" is totally absent from both the Old Testament and the New Testament, it is evident it is not there. All you have is the tetragrammaton (four unpronounceable consonants in its stead) in the OT and 3 Hallelujahs (fragments of the name) in the NT.

  <<Here is a place in the Hebrew Scriptures the name is used and written:https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+6%3A3&version=AKJV>>

  Yes, the KJV actually employs the name Jehovah 4 times....but these are derived from adding vowels to the tetragrammaton. So again, Jehovah or Yahweh is not in the Hebrew scriptures.

  Thus the KJV is guilty of adding to the word of God 4 times while the Watchtower is guilty of adding the name Jehovah close to 7000 times in the OT. But regardless...Jehovah is not there.

  <<Knowing that, can you say for certain that the DN was not written at all in the original Greek writings?>>

  Can you say for certain that it was? And if it was, why didn't God allow at least some ancient manuscripts to contain the name? And how then could anyone trust the scriptures If men can so thoroughly alter God's word.

  It is evident then that God wanted another DN to have preeminence.
  
  
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  Babylon The Great / World Empire of False Religion, do JW`s even preach that anymore ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  when was that first preached , with the book babylon the great has fallen gods kingdom rules ,the 1970`s ?

  where they claimed that false religion had a fall in 1919 and that it was continuing to that day .

  however today we see not babylon the great that is falling ,but the jehovah`s witnesses religion that are on the decline ,selling off branches , kingdom halls in one place after another throughout the earth .. and only a couple of years ago they were predicting they would be needing thousands of kingdom halls to be built for the expected influx of new worshippers ?

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  Vanderhoven7

  Found this on line

  Babylon is Jerusalem

  Some preterist writers such as Chilton, believe that Babylon is a code name for Jerusalem:1

  The primary thrust of the prophecy has been directed against Jerusalem . . . John gives us no indication that the subject has been changed. As we shall see in Chapters 17 and 18, the evidence that the prophetic Babylon was Jerusalem is nothing short of overwhelming.2

  In his first epistle, presumably written before the Revelation, St. Peter described the local church from which he wrote as “she who is in Babylon” (1Pe. 1Pe. 5:13). Many have supposed this to be Rome, where St. Peter was (according to tradition) later martyred, but it is much more likely that the apostle was in Jerusalem when he wrote these words. Based on data from the New Testament itself, our natural assumption should be that “Babylon” was Jerusalem, since that was where he lived and exercised his ministry.3

  Preterists find support for this surprising claim in the great similarity between passages concerning apostate Jerusalem and what is said concerning the Harlot. But if the Harlot is the mother of all harlots, this is to be expected. It is important to recognize that the Harlot influenced all nations, including Israel. For “in her [the Harlot] was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth” (Rev. Rev. 18:24+). Thus, similarities between apostate Israel...
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  Cite one scripture in the N.T. that chargers Christians to be witnesses of / for Jehovah.....Not one.using K.I ./ WTB&TS

  by smiddy3 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think the wtb&ts publication titled "the kingdom interlinear of the christian greek scriptures" speaks for itself.. the word for word translation of the greek into english.. that publication does not even contain the name or word jehovah either in hebrew letters or greek letters anywhere in the word for word texts.. their is not one scripture in the n.t.

  where christians ,followers of jesus christ are instructed to be witnesses of jehovah ,however there are something like twenty scriptures that explicitly state followers of jesus christ are to be witnesses of, for, and about jesus...

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  Vanderhoven7

  Evidently God did not want His full name to ever appear in His Bible. And aside from three Hallelujahs in Revelation His name is totally absent from the New Testament.

  It is evident, because it is not there.

  Evidently JWs are placing the emphasis on the wrong name.