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  JW Excuses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  the following list was posted by generation2 in reddit.

  perhaps you can add to it.. 1- it's a translation issue.

  2- that's how things where then.

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  They are imperfect men

  They are God's channel
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  JW Excuses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the following list was posted by generation2 in reddit.

  perhaps you can add to it.. 1- it's a translation issue.

  2- that's how things where then.

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  The following list was posted by Generation2 in Reddit. Perhaps you can add to it.

  1- It's a translation issue.

  2- That's how things where then.

  3- It makes sense if you have faith.

  4- You are quoting out of context.

  5- It is not for us to know.

  6- You are reading it wrong.

  7- It's a metaphor.

  8- You can't prove it didn't happen.

  9- Leave it to Jehovah (favorite excuse)

  
  
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  Riles For Jehovah's Witnesses.

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  mark jones, ex-jehovah's witness, was in for 31 years.

  updated october 16, 2019 · author has 1.7k answers and 17.6m answer views.

  pretty much everything that’s fun.

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  Thanks DS. I was not aware of that. Hope he doesn't mind the extra-Quora publicity.
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  Riles For Jehovah's Witnesses.

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  mark jones, ex-jehovah's witness, was in for 31 years.

  updated october 16, 2019 · author has 1.7k answers and 17.6m answer views.

  pretty much everything that’s fun.

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  Mark Jones, Ex-Jehovah's Witness, was in for 31 years

  Updated October 16, 2019 · Author has 1.7K answers and 17.6M answer views

  Pretty much everything that’s fun. Even when I was a committed member, I used to joke with my “brothers and sisters” that if it involves joy and laughter it’s probably against our religion.

  Here’s a list of some that immediately spring to mind, this list is not exhaustive - there are many, many more:

  1. Smoking[1]
  2. Swearing[2]
  3. Sex before marriage[3]
  4. Receive a blood transfusion[4]
  5. Donate sperm[5]
  6. Donate eggs[6]
  7. Use donated sperm[7]
  8. Use donated eggs[8]
  9. Be a surrogate[9] [10]
  10. Celebrating a birthday[11]
  11. Signing a birthday card[12]
  12. Celebrating Christmas[13]
  13. Celebrating Independence day[14]
  14. Celebrating thanksgiving[15]
  15. Celebrating mothers day[16]
  16. Celebrating fathers day[17]
  17. Celebrating Halloween[18]
  18. Salute a flag[19][20]
  19. Own a flag[21]
  20. Take part in competitive sports[22]
  21. Use external sources in bible research[23] [24]
  22. Take part in a bible study group without the Governing Body leaders permission[25]
  23. Play with a Ouija board[26] [27]
  24. Use tarot cards[28]
  25. Watching Harry Potter[29]
  26. Talking to ex-members[30]
  27. Visiting websites that say Jehovah’s Witnesses are wrong[31]
  28. Getting drunk[32]
  29. Being a homosexual[33]
  30. Think that you might be a homosexual[34]
  31. Think homosexuality should be accepted[35] [36]
  32. Disagree with anything printed in a Watchtower magazine[37]
  33. Have an opinion that differs from their Governing Body leaders[38]
  34. Wear tight pants[39] [40]
  35. Gamble[41]
  36. Be alone with the opposite sex[42]
  37. Look at pornography[43]
  38. Own nude art[44]
  39. Take an art class that involves a nude model[45]
  40. Report a Jehovah’s Witness child molester to the police (unless there were TWO witnesses to the assault).[46]
  41. Eat black pudding[47]
  42. Be friends with non-members[48]
  43. Talk to family members who leave the religion[49]
  44. Join the army[50]
  45. Read other religious or “holy” books[51]
  46. (For women) pray out loud in the presence of man without covering her head.[52]
  47. (For women) preach from the platform[53]
  48. (For women) teach a man[54]
  49. (For women) have any authority in the home[55] [56]
  50. Not inform the elders of how many hours they’ve spent knocking on doors each month. (Shepherd The Flock Of God, chapter 4, point 3)[57]
  51. Pursue a career[58] [59] [60] [61]
  52. Vote[62]
  53. Have a political opinion[63]
  54. Watch boxing[64]
  55. Take part in boxing[65]
  56. Take martial arts classes[66]
  57. Kill (even if the person is trying to kill you or your loved ones)[67]
  58. Sing the national anthem[68]
  59. Swear allegiance to a monarch or the country[69]
  60. Own religious icons or statues[70]

  But yet, the Jehovah’s Witnesses will tell you that they have no rules!

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  Perhaps you can add to this list

  
  
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  Elders Remove Excellent Speaker

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  great talk interrupted.... https://youtu.be/hlgwyfhtihm.

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  I appreciate your concern HB, I really do. And you are right...I have been seduced, not by the Bible per sec but by the biblical Jesus, who saved/justified and sanctified me and called me into His service of seeking and saving the lost. Christianity is relationship with Jesus Christ...something that Jehovah's Witnesses do not and cannot have. The Holy Spirit is the one who reveals both our lostness and our need for the cross which is Christ's personal wedding invitation to all of humanity to join Him in death.
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  Elders Remove Excellent Speaker

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  great talk interrupted.... https://youtu.be/hlgwyfhtihm.

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  Did anyone notice the captioning colour change every time something questionable from the WTS viewpoint was being expressed?
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  So What Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Do Now?

  by minimus in

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  they don’t go to conventions .

  they don’t go to assemblies.

  they don’t go to meetings.

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  Perhaps someone can find the secret elder's letter advising the sheep to use their spare time at home to stock their underground bunkers in anticipation of the great tribulation.
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  We Are Not False Prophets-Watchtower

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  a jw apologetic video.

  https://youtu.be/itxmldcsmly.

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  If the label "false prophet" doesn't apply, False teacher certainly does. Preaching speculations as the word of God....especially about it's essential role in salvation.
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  We Are Not False Prophets-Watchtower

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  a jw apologetic video.

  https://youtu.be/itxmldcsmly.

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  A JW apologetic video

  https://youtu.be/itxmLdCSmLY
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  Elders Remove Excellent Speaker

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  great talk interrupted.... https://youtu.be/hlgwyfhtihm.

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  In two thousand years does any one have the name of someone who has definitely been 'saved' through calling on Jesus?
  

  As a matter of fact I know many, including myself who have called upon Christ for salvation and received the gift of the Holy Ghost.

  Christianity is something to believe and someone to receive. The evidence of salvation is the transformation of a life that only the person transformed can know and give testimony to by a change in behaviour.... though skeptics without knowing the person before or after may choose to deride.