i’ve always had a personal relationship with god that is not affected by any issues or controversies i have with anybody..
I’ve always had a personal relationship with God that is not affected by any issues or controversies I have with anybody.
Interesting. Would your personal relationship with God be affected if you were to reject the identity claims of certain men in Warwick New York?
a forum is a place where people should be able to talk to each other, to question, to have meaningful interactions with others in a polite and educated way, to contribute for the growth of one another.
it seems that, here, there are some people who think that the others know nothing.
they have all the facts, all the truth and have the disrespectful attitude of ignoring concrete and respectful questions.
Hi Joao,
Sometimes people refuse to answer critical questions because it is not to their advantage; not responding or not responding truthfully allows them to maintain a sense of superiority or rightness. I know it can be frustrating. But If you interpret non-response as an admission, which it often is; it will be easier to deal with.
I believe Fisherman is here because he has serious doubts about the religion he has cherished and supported for years. To admit that would blow his cover.
i’ve always had a personal relationship with god that is not affected by any issues or controversies i have with anybody..
Our fellowship is with the Father and the Son. Christians don't need to address God as Jehovah, but relationally as Father. Sadly 8 million Jehovah's Witnesses confess that they are not sons of God, they are not indwelt by His Holy Spirit and do not have a saving relationship with the real Jesus....or with the archangel Michael for that matter.
Of course, they look at God propectively as their father. If they follow men in NY and faithfully work for 1000 years...they will be saved and God will actually become their father.
i’ve always had a personal relationship with god that is not affected by any issues or controversies i have with anybody..
being born-in and raised as one of jehovah's witnesses i remember a common theme or phrases used by the watchtower in its theory of why things are the way they are -.
jehovah created humans.
jehovah created humans as free moral agents.
Try, "I had no choice" in a court of law.
obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.
and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.
in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
@ Fisherman
To that evil generation the sign that Jesus gave to his disciples wasn’t a sign for them but it was for his disciples.
Thanks for confirming what I said. Jesus was warning the disciples when and where to flee what the evil generation would experience.
You might benefit by looking at how many times God changed His mind about who the generation applied to.
1897 - “ good and evil living in 1914" Studies in the Scriptures Vol 4 pp.602,603
1927 - “the anointed" The irresistible conclusion therefore is that Jesus referred to the new creation [the anointed] when he said: “This generation shall not pass until all these things be fulfilled.” Watchtower 1927 Feb 15 p.62
1951 - “worldly people" So it was on “this generation” that the accumulated judgments were to fall. Watchtower 1951 Jul 1 p.404
1962 - “good and evil” irrespective of whether such persons are righteous or wicked. Awake! 1962 Sept. 22 p.27 'This Generation Will Not Pass'
1995 - “worldly people" Jesus was not departing from his established use of the term “this generation,” which he consistently applied to the contemporary masses with their “blind guides” Watchtower 1995 Nov 1 pp.14,20
1999 - “worldly people" [It refers] to people who stubbornly turn their backs on the divine purpose." WT. May 1, 1999
2008 - “current anointed class" As a class, these anointed ones make up the modern-day "generation" of contemporaries that will not pass away "until all these things occur." This suggests that some who are Christ's anointed brothers will still be alive on earth when the foretold great tribulation begins." Watchtower 2008 Feb 15 p.24
2010 - “overlapping anointed class” "He evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation." Watchtower 2010 April 15 p.10
obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.
and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.
in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
In reply he said to them: “A wicked and adulterous generation keeps on seeking a sign, but no sign will be given it except the sign of Jonah the prophet."
Jesus outlined to his disciples the specific disasters that would precede the the great tribulation and finally the sign (abomination of desolation) for it's approach so his followers would flee Jerusalem at the right moment and avoid what would happen to wicked and adulterous people living at the time. So "this generation" refers to those who would experience the siege and onslaught of the Roman army.
obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.
and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.
in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
Excellent point Waton! The generation Jesus talked about would experience the aforementioned composite sign as well as the events of the great tribulation. So "this generation" on the lips of Jesus, like all other instances in the gospel refers to the contemporaneous mass of evil opposers.
obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.
and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.
in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.
I started out reading the riot act to my students on the first day of school.
The only rule is respect (I always explain what that looks like)
Then, to Lighten the atmosphere, I added two related rules.
Rule 1. The teacher is always right.
Rule 2. When the teacher is wrong, refer to rule number 1.
Now substitute Watchtower for teacher. Whatever the Faithful Slave says at any given time is the truth.
watchtower, september 15, 1895: "beware of "organization.
" it is wholly unnecessary.
the bible rules will be the only rules you will need.
Progressive understanding is exemplified best by both 180 degree reversals in the channel and also progressing back to previous understandings.
And here i thought that a new view of truth never contradicts an older view of truth, it merely progressively adds to it.
