Posts by Vanderhoven7

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Hey, Regarding the "Resurrection" thing and the WT denial of the Mt 27:51-53 incident...

by FragrantAddendum in

so according to bible.

elisha's bones were there when jehovah resurrected some other dude.

jesus could heal from a distance by power of god.

Vanderhoven7

@ PeacefulPete

Can you provide where this Josephus quote is found?

3. Now, for the Pharisees, .....They also believe that souls have an immortal rigor in them, and that under the earth there will be rewards or punishments, according as they have lived virtuously or viciously in this life; and the latter are to be detained in an everlasting prison, but that the former shall have power to revive and live again; ....
4. But the doctrine of the Sadducees is this: That souls die with the bodies;............
5. The doctrine of the Essens is this: .... They teach the immortality of souls..........

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They must also change the treatment of those who dissociate themselves from the JWs. It is inevitable

by LaFrancia in

from reddit ex jw, a user posted this material of a hypothetical new light on dissociated people......i'm posting it only for the record, nothing else is known.

it seems that the topic has been deleted either by the moderators or by the user himself.

understanding dissociation in light of the scriptures.

Vanderhoven7

Imagine the reaction of parents who have shunned their dissociated adult children for the past 25 years?

If upset.....

Refer to the Slave's humble admission that they can err in organizational direction.

My take is that the original article was a submission to the GB, read and released by a PIMO who was fed up with the Org's nonsense.

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Who Are the "Other Sheep" and Jesus "Brothers" ?

by Sea Breeze in

watchtower plays lots of games with definitions.

once they change a definition then they have a false assumption to build their deception on.

then they repeat the new definition and use its new meaning thousands of times to reinforce it.

Vanderhoven7

The thief on the cross recognized that he was a sinner deserving of death.

He recognized the Jesus was LORD and called Him so.

He recognized that as LORD, He had the power to forgive sin.

He recognized that Jesus had a future beyond death.

He recognized that Jesus would be king of His kingdom come,

Because he recognized these things, he asked and received the promise of participation with the Lord Jesus Christ in that kingdom.

Jesus said that whosoever believed in Him would past from death to life and be free condemnation. Seems to me, the thief qualified.

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My guess for August WatchTower: GB claims we're in beginning stages of Great Tribulation due to World governments turning on JW's

by WingCommander in

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friends

the september watchtower has already been released and is being discussed over on reddit.

some highlights: .

1. more hitting the flock on total reliance and obedience to god's representatives on earth today, the f&ds (the governing body, of course).

Vanderhoven7

I thought the tribulation was supposed to start by the nations attacking false religion.

Wait...perhaps this is the one prediction they got right.

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Watchtower Dishonesty

by Vanderhoven7 in

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friends

just re-discovered this gem:.

"it is a matter of fact that the history of the watchtower society is riddled with failed date-setting and abandoned doctrine,1 and the society has gone to great lengths to hide this past from its members.

older (incriminating) watchtower publications are virtually impossible to obtain through the society,2 while at the same time members are overwhelmed with "current" watchtower material.. the watchtower society has even gone as far as to publish disinformation about its own history in an attempt to convince readers that watchtower doctrine has remained consistent over the years, and that the society is not a false prophet.

Vanderhoven7

https://youtu.be/F0C1Jb99fQU?si=x5qhXkrRFmKunZ5a

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Do Jehovah's Witnesses have to buy any of the organization's literature before distribution?

by Vanderhoven7 in

was this ever a requirement?.

Vanderhoven7

Hi Stan When were you in? Was it standard policy then?

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Do Jehovah's Witnesses have to buy any of the organization's literature before distribution?

by Vanderhoven7 in

was this ever a requirement?.

Vanderhoven7

Was this ever a requirement?

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What is is your favorite REDICULOUS JW falsehood? :)

by Balaamsass2 in

i get a few good laughs from the ex-jw facebook site: " ex jw humor will set you free".. i was laughing over dinner with 3rd gen over this post tonight: "question for the audience: i was driving around today and it hit me...there are big falsehoods (armageddon etc.

) that we were told, but also ridiculous falsehoods.

what is your favorite ridiculous falsehoods?

Vanderhoven7

When they told JWs that they should add a room on their house so that they could then phone Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in Jerusalem in 1926 and ask them to raise gramma.

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Waking Them Up When They Feel Safe

by KerryKing in

good morning all, i would love some genuine advice please.. i have an old friend who is still in the org, but has never been the very staunch type.

however, she is going through a very rough patch in life, (past deeds from youth caught up and now is in prison) and i reached out to her by old fashioned snail mail.. by her reply she sounds more pimi than ever and finding some sort of comfort in the literature.

would i be wrong to attempt to wake her up, would that actually be a cruel thing to do right now?

Vanderhoven7

Sorry Kerry, no relation I'm afraid. My great great grandfather on my dad's side was Dutch but I have more British, Italian and French DNA than Dutch.

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Still Confused About The FDS

by NotFormer in

this was prompted by another thread where it was revealed that the gb were referred to as "our future kings" in a wt video.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4911685446402048/fun-moment.

if i've got it right, the 144,000 are (or were until recently) the fds.

Vanderhoven7

Trust The Governing Body

https://youtu.be/59b33o-KgdE?si=U_S2bKcshQf6ZhEA