RICK... I'M STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO RESPOND TO MY QUERY... WHY DID YOU STATE THAT ELDERS ARE BEING DELETED FOR HAVING FACEBOOK ACCOUNTS? WHERE DID YOU GET THIS INFO? OR DID YOU SIMPLY MAKE IT UP? WHY ARE YOU NOT RESPONDING?
Posts by Alfred
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104Father Elders going mad !
by koolaid-man inthe stress on jehovah's witness elders raising their children in "the truth" is causing many to literally go mad.. keeping their children in " the spiritual ark" is becoming more and more difficult.. many elders are snapping under the pressure.. one of our guests on the six screens conference call told of her elder father ( who everyone at the kingdom hall thought was an angel) came home from the meeting and killed the family dog in the kitchen with his bookbag as the family looked on....... join us tonight oct. 22, 2011 at 7 pm edt.
.... our guest will be wendy lee tucker former jw whose father was an elder and terribly abused her physically and emotionally.. she received horrific beatings..... hit with a bat, punched at, receiving a broken nose and became a prisoner in her home.. wendy was looked in her room with the doors being nailed shut when the family went off to the kingdom hall.. a far cry fom being a "spiritual paradise".
it is easy to get on the call....no computer is necessary.... just dial 712-432-8710 and when asked for pin use 9925. our lines open at 6:30 pm edt.....so come on early and talk with all those who have been "touched by the tentacles of the watchtower".
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Watchtower Discontinues Annual Report! Statement Within......
by Momma-Tossed-Me inbabtised publishers.
this is the number of baptized individuals who partake in the preaching work worldwide.
does this total represent the number of all preachers on earth?
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Alfred
That will never happen...
they need impressive numbers and charts to show that Jehovah is directing the organization...
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Does the congo with the thickest envelope get all the circuit assembly talks?
by Alfred inok... i might be speculating here but i just have this sudden need to get this purged from my system once and for all.... it always seemed to me that the congo that handed over the thickest envelope to the co at the end of his visit got all the circuit assembly parts... this is just my personal observation from having been in 4 different districts for over 3 decades.. of course, i could be completely wrong about this but i rarely noticed elders from the poorer congos in the district giving talks at any assembly i've ever attended, while the elders from the more affluent congos in the district seemed to get all the talks, simposiums, dramas, everything.... in fact, about the only thing the "less fortunate" elders were used for at assemblies were for "interviews" (during an affluent elder's talk) where they would briefly explain how they gave up higher education, higher paying jobs, etc.
to serve jehovah full time because jehovah always provides, etc.
just to make the "materialistic" young couples in attendance feel guilty and sign up for aux pionsneering, reach out, etc.. meanwhile, several affluent and well-known business owners in the district got all the front-and-center 15-min discourses... i always thought: "why are they up there giving these talks, instead of the more humble brothers in the district who are all but running themselves into the ground in field circus 6 days a week while the affluent elders barely get in 10 hours a week visiting not-at-homes?.
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Alfred
OK... I might be speculating here but I just have this sudden need to get this purged from my system once and for all...
It always seemed to me that the congo that handed over the thickest envelope to the CO at the end of his visit got all the circuit assembly parts... This is just my personal observation from having been in 4 different districts for over 3 decades.
Of course, I could be completely wrong about this but I rarely noticed elders from the poorer congos in the district giving talks at any assembly I've ever attended, while the elders from the more affluent congos in the district seemed to get all the talks, simposiums, dramas, everything...
In fact, about the only thing the "less fortunate" elders were used for at assemblies were for "interviews" (during an affluent elder's talk) where they would briefly explain how they gave up higher education, higher paying jobs, etc. to serve Jehovah full time because Jehovah always provides, etc. just to make the "materialistic" young couples in attendance feel guilty and sign up for aux pionsneering, reach out, etc.. Meanwhile, several affluent and well-known business owners in the district got all the front-and-center 15-min discourses... I always thought: "why are they up there giving these talks, instead of the more humble brothers in the district who are all but running themselves into the ground in field circus 6 days a week while the affluent elders barely get in 10 hours a week visiting not-at-homes?
Has anyone else noticed this in their district(s)? or it just my imagination?...
(Again, I just had to purge that from my system... thanks for reading)
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Heavenly Gates Closed in 1935 Re-opened in 2007
by Alfred insince 1935, the watchtower had been categorically teaching (for over 6 decades) that the heavenly calling of the 144,000 anointed christians had ceased in 1935. this teaching was especially significant to older jws (especially those who spent much of their lives serving the watchtower as pioneers, elders, missionaries, bethelites, etc.
) because many of these would eventually turn their attention to the aging governing body members and feel a sense of relief knowing that the end was drawing ever so near.
in other words, as more governing body members (who were born before 1935) passed away, the closer they would get to their long-awaited reward of surviving armageddon and living on paradise earth where they would finally hug grass-eating lions near a waterfall while marveling at snow-peaked mountains in the distance.
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Alfred
I think the gate will be simply removed all together once they finally admit that 144,000 is just a symbolic number... that'll probably be shortly after 2014... they'll likely let David Splane explain it in some DVD or during an annual meeting... it'll just go over everyone's head as usual...
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Who is Rolf Furuli?
by possible-san inis he a reliable scholar?.
(most of anti-jehovah's witnesses in japan hardly know his name.).
is he an active jehovah's witness?.
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Alfred
sorry... i meant delusional....
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Who is Rolf Furuli?
by possible-san inis he a reliable scholar?.
(most of anti-jehovah's witnesses in japan hardly know his name.).
is he an active jehovah's witness?.
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Alfred
He's a delisional elder in Norway employed by the GB to refute anything that contradicts their 1914 doctrine...
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Uber Dub wants to have dinner....
by outsmartthesystem inok. the good news is that my wife has eased up on the whole "talking it out with the elders" thing.
she now insists that she is doing her"own independent research with unbiased materials" on some subjects.
unbiased?
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Alfred
This guy really sounds like the type of dub who would use this opportunity to his advantage...
If he succeeds in sucking you back in, he'll be hailed as a hero...
If he succeeds in exposing you as an apostate, he's be hailed a super-hero...
Either way, the CO will be impressed with him... don't give him that pleasure...
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If Jerusalem destruction was truly significant- Why would an almighty God allow so much confusion regarding the date?
by mankkeli ini was just thinking that if truly the destruction of jerusalem would have any significance today, why should there be so much confusion surrounding its date and discrepancies regarding the names of those neo-babylonian kings.. .
if truly that event was significant, why should it be so difficult for the almighty god to pen down the exact date in the bible and shield us from unnecessary debates, reliance on scholars and opaque explanations from religions with ulterior motives?.
i cant comprehend any reason to justify the silence from god on this date.. .
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Alfred
jesus was very clear when he instructed his disciples not to 'speculate' about when he would return and establish his kingdom (see acts 1:7)... so any confusion regarding the date of jerusalem's destruction was created solely by the fds (making things up as they along)...
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Here is the funeral talk outline. VERY discraceful.
by stillstuckcruz inthis is truly terrible.
i just love the statement "instead of eulogizing the deceased, use the material in this outline to give a fine witness concerning the truth.
" in other words, utterly disregard the deceased.
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Alfred
"The talk need not exceed 30 minutes."
Why not? Are they afraid that funerals might start interfering with field service???
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printing of g increased
by factfinder ini don't know if anyone has noticed this yet but the jan. 2012 g is now up on jw.org.
the average printing per issue is now.
41.042,000 which is an increase per issue of 1,129,000 more compared with last year.
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Alfred
the printing of the most least-read magazine in the world has gone up so that 3-year olds can easily place them, become publishers and make themselves eligible for baptism by the time they're 5 years old... keep in mind that recruitment is no longer coming from the field... it's coming from jw family and jw peer pressure... the easier you make it more jw children to get baptized, the earlier you can start their long brainwashing process and increase the retention rate...