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  WT’s SWARM airplane renamed Silver Fox and deployed to Iraq's battlefields

  by Gerard in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  update on swarm:

  most of you are aware that the wtbts owns stocks on at least three companies dedicated to provide rand cam engine technology to the u.s. navy.

  the engine in question has been mounted on the spy plane previously known as swarm (smart war-fighter array of re-configurable modules).

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  Alfred

  Brochure for Silver Fox aircraft...

  http://www.acrtucson.com/UAV/silverfox/UAV_SF_Brochure.pdf

  interesting stuff
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  JWs Depression and Suicide

  by 00DAD in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  since jehovah's witnesses supposedly have "the truth" and are part of god's visible organization living in a "spiritual paradise" you would naturally expect that they should be the happiest people on earth!

  this clearly is not the case.

  wha happened?

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  Alfred

  I've only heard of such suicides from nearby congo's... but it was always explained away as the victim's fault...

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  -Watchtower November 1, 1987 page 14

  Yet, the Bible’s words are not easily brushed aside: “God is not one to be mocked. [“There is no thumbing your nose at God.”—Byington] For whatever a man is sowing, this he will also reap; because he who is sowing with a view to his flesh will reap corruption from his flesh.” (Galatians 6:7, 8) Lewd behavior often results in sickness, or even untimely death, from diseases such as syphilis, gonorrhea, and AIDS, to name the outstanding ones. Mental and emotional imbalance, depression, and even suicide are also at times the result of promiscuous life-styles. So while those sharing in immoral practices may laugh in scorn at those trying to keep themselves clean, the laughter stops as the mockers begin ‘reaping what they have sown.’—Compare Romans 1:24-27.
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  What is the stupidest comment you ever heard at a meeting?

  by 3rdgen in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a very reliable friend told me this: the bro was commenting on what was "unacceptable" conduct in the bedroom between married persons.

  needless to say, he had everyone's attention.

  he went on to say "we must avoid perversions such as oral and annual sex.

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  One brother made this bizarre comment intended for the next paragraph of the WT Study (not the one being considered when he raised his hand): "In Jehovah's eyes, it's acceptable to have a luxury car as long as it's primary purpose is to transport brothers to the KH, assemblies and field service." The study conductor could barely keep a straight face and and asked: "Anyone else?" There was also a loud giggle from a sister in the second row who couldn't contain herself...

  ... weeks later, the brother who made this bizarre comment (from the wrong paragrah) traded in his old Nissan Pathfinder and bought a BMW 7-series...
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  Injuries at Assemblies, who covers the cost

  by CaptainSchmideo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, i knew it would happen, and i wasn't surprised when it did.. a friend of mine, older brother with a heart condition, was assisting in shoveling snow at the circuit assembly this weekend (suit and tie, no less!

  ) and slipped on the ice and cracked a couple of his ribs.. what is the likelihood that the circuit or society will assist or cover his medical bills?

  any takers on this?.

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  Alfred

  You need to inform the elders in your congo that you are unable to pay for your medical bills. The elders will prayerfully consider your situation and then decide whether you are worthy of the congo's financial help. If they find that you are worthy of this assistance, they will make a brief mention of your situation during the Service Meeting and the head of each family is left with a decision to make as the Society will always back away from these situations...

  The money you receive from the congo will usually be proportional to your field service hours...
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  Ridiculous elder ideas and rules

  by Juan Viejo2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in an earlier thread, i went off topic for a moment to share excerpts from an email i received from an active sister living in the midwest usa.

  she mentioned that the elders in her congregations were extremely conservative and criticized the flock for using certain colors of highlighters in their magazines.

  she also reported that they were all over the sisters for wearing stylish boots or tennis shoes during the winter months.. i know that some elder groups can be very liberal, supportive and loving toward their flocks - while others are exactly opposite to the point that they become overbearing and oppressive.. what have you experienced as far as ridiculous, over-the-top rules and ideas enforced by local elders?.

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  In the early 80's a fanatic elder in my congo (who would later become a CO) had my father (an MS at the time) make several signs that read "Gum chewing not allowed" and "Talking not allowed" (in Spanish)... each sign also had a Bible text about "obedience" (can't remember which one right now)... Anyway, my father made some really nice-looking signs that I remember being very proud of at the time... This elder then had my father hang these signs in strategic locations throughout the KH on a Saturday after field circus...

  The following Sunday, this elder (who was also the Watchtower Study conductor) stops the study after the first few paragraphs and says: "When sister (Gum-chewer) removes the gum from her mouth, we will move on to the next paragraph." As you can imagine, the KH went completely silent... I remember everyone becoming completely still with their eyes glued to their magazine for what seemed to be an eternity. Then he asked the reader to read the next paragraph and the study continued as is this elder's public humiliation of this sister never happened. But just before the last 2 paragraphs or so, he stops the WT study yet again and says: "When sister (Chatty) is done talkng to sister (Nosey), we'll continue to the next paragraph." Again, the entire congo cringed...

  I'm not sure what happened afterwards as I dared no look in that direction. But this was the subject of many a conversation for many weeks afterwards and the two sisters who were publicly humiliated never returned to the KH (at least not ours)...

  (I could tell you other stories about this elder but I'd be seriously derailing this thread...)

  That being said, I seriously doubt that this has been seen anywhere else in any other congo... this is probably as extreme as it can possibly get with a fanatic elder...
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  WT: Only JWs and idiots will survive Armageddon...

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  since there is compelling and overwhelming evidence that jehovah is the true and living god, creator and supreme sovereign of the universe, the plea of ignorance cannot be admitted in its full latitude except for idiots.

  the atheists cannot plead ignorance.

  the agnostics cannot plead ignorance.

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  Since there is compelling and overwhelming evidence that Jehovah is the true and living God, Creator and Supreme Sovereign of the universe, the plea of ignorance cannot be admitted in its full latitude except for idiots. The atheists cannot plead ignorance. The agnostics cannot plead ignorance. The evildoers cannot plead ignorance. The idolaters cannot plead ignorance. For if they are willing to exercise their faculties and employ their minds in diligent search, men have within their reach the means of coming to know Jehovah God. So God’s decree is: “They are without excuse.” –Watchtower April 15, 1956 page 229
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  What was the name of the WT's special printing machine?

  by Paralipomenon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember on my visit to the bethel, one of the stops was this machine that allowed rapid production of layout in different languages.

  they were very proud of it, i guess it was invented by a poor volunteer there and it was enough of a breakthrough that they claimed that international companies were looking to buy or license the technology for millions.. the guide was very proud to say that they were keeping the technology and not sharing.

  tee hee hee, take that satan!.

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  an elder in my congo had everyone convinced that this new printing equipment was capable of translating english into over 100 languages and simultaneously printing the inputted english text in those languages... when i showed him and others in the congo evidence to the contrary (that this was not an automatic language translator and that human translators were still required), i was shunned by everyone for embarassing this elder... this elder wasn't intentionally misleading anyone... he simply didn't carefully read an article published in a wt about it...
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  Tickets for Dec 18 sold-out, +- 40 000 left out.

  by african GB Member in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we have just been informed that the tickets for dec 18 convention have been sold out.. the announcement was made at the end of the service meeting..

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  Alfred

  Sam Herd... you need to back away from that stuff you're smoking... seriously
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  The Great Tribulation is picking up speed!!!!!!!!!!!!

  by unbaptized in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the tribulation is really starting to speed up it's pace.

  i just read that atleast 3 types of animal and plant life go extinct every hour.

  global warming threatens the entire planet, crimes against women and children are at a all time high, honeybees dying off for unexplained reasons, the threat of nuclear war, the ravage of infectious disease.

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  SOUTHPARK - Scientology episode removed from DVD boxset!!! Why??

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just heard on the radio the episode they did on scientology was not on the new season dvd boxset.

  an ex- member released documents from the church on the net showing a campaign of harrassment against the shows creators.

  one example even their garbage was investigated for anything they could use.

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  Alfred

  Freedom of speech is allowed as long as it doesn't criticize Mormons, JWs or Scientologists... criticizing all other religions is allowed though...