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Posts by Alfred
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18The Reason -- for pushing more and more work onto JWs
by Marvin Shilmer inwhy the unrelenting pressure for more and more organized religious activity?
today i uploaded a new article to my blog exploring the reason why watchtower promotes more and more of its work onto the community of jehovahs witnesses.
it turns out that in 1943 nathan knorr had a thing or two to say about why this constant push for more, more, more.
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Most JWs Lack Bible Knowledge - How Can They Teach What they know not
by Band on the Run inbeing a jw exposed me to many bible stories.
when i am with any group of people today, except seminary students, i know far more stories and obscure ones, too.
after i left, i went on a tour of the cathedral in ny.
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Alfred
I find that many JWs have simply memorized an entire repertoire of texts that have been repeated continuously over the years (along with their corresponding twisted interpretations). But very few have taken the time to actually analyze what they read...
This reminds me of when I had to memorize the periodic table in chemistry class... Oh I memorized it alright... and people around me were amazed at how much I knew about chemistry... The truth was: I knew nothing about chemistry... I was merely able to regurgitate the periodic table and few tid-bits about chemistry here and there... but I knew nothing about chemistry at all...
Likewise today, some people are amazed at how many texts JWs are able regurgitate on demand... but the fact is that most JWs know nothing about the Bible itself...
just my opinion from my own personal observations...
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Draconian Rules for Attending "Special Convention"
by BluesBrother inbritish dubs are invited to attend a special convention next summer in dublin , irish republic.
o k, this kind of trip has been done many times before.
however i have never seen such a crude and rigid set of rules that would apply to their own people going on a trip, at their own expense of course.
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Alfred
Have they ever had these so-called "Special Conventions" where the need ($$$) is great (like Haiti, Ethiopia or Zimbabwe)???
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Why Did Ray Franz Still Go On Field Service?
by BroMac inin his book he says he still went out on field service.. why would he do that?
i'm finding it so hard to go out, i only take my bible.. .
bromac.
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Alfred
3 possible reasons come to mind
- he was hoping that things would change eventually
- he needed a clean exit strategy... quitting cold turkey was not the right way to do that
- he was still programmed (it takes sometimes several years to deprogram
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Alfred
is it just me?... I don't see the post...
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The Purpose Of The Circuit Assembly, Is To Show How Much More We Can Do, or How Little We Do?
by Bubblegum Apotheosis inwhy is it, the c.a.s are not upbuiling, and the whole bible is replaced with, "how to do more for jehovah!
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the "two day assemblies" are no.
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Alfred
designs... very fitting metophor.... on the other hand, the cookie monster does tend to drop the entire cookie on the floor as he crazily munches away... the WT would never drop one red cent!
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The Purpose Of The Circuit Assembly, Is To Show How Much More We Can Do, or How Little We Do?
by Bubblegum Apotheosis inwhy is it, the c.a.s are not upbuiling, and the whole bible is replaced with, "how to do more for jehovah!
" talks.
the "two day assemblies" are no.
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Alfred
The last few CA's I attended, JWs looked less happy and there were a lot less hugs and kisses... it just seemed as if everyone was simply going through the motions or wondering if Armageddon was indeed "just around the corner" or not...
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Advanced Medical Directive for EXPECTANT MOMS?
by Joojoobean ini hear there is a maternity medical directive pregnant jws give to their obs.
can anyone get me a pdf for this?
i'd curious to know exactly what it says.. [someone's posted about this on jwrecovery].
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Alfred
Joojoobean... welcome!
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My 18-yr old college freshman nephew has just been cut off for leaving the JWs...
by Alfred ini spoke about him in a previous thread... he's the nicest kid you'll ever meet... smart, humble, shows respect and is very kind to everyone around him... except for one minor thing... you guessed it... he no longer believes in the jw religion.
also, he feels it is simply a place for hopeless people to gather and give each other moral support without actually doing anything productive to better their lives... i won't get into the details on how he arrived at this conclusion... suffice to say, he did not want to be a part of this crowd any longer.. incredibly, when he was a lot younger, he was able to convince his jw father (a po) and his jw mother (my sister) that they should let him go to college when he turns 18 (and help him pay for it!!!).
so they started putting some money away and my nephew has been in college since september!.
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Alfred
Thanks everyone for your supportive comments and suggestions...
Wasanelder... You're right... and he does support himself by working at a hardware store (and I also found out that he now has a room mate... an ex-JW also! ... so his rent is now cut in half)
New Chapter and Toth... Thanks for sharing your sentiments. Believe me, he has no intentions of ever dropping out. If anything, this whole situation has made him even more determined not to fail.
Breakfast... I swear he must be lurking on this site... I texted him some of the suggestions from this thread, but he had already visited his college's financial aid office and will soon be getting an additional $6,700 on a student loan.
Wisdom and Band On the Run... You're right... He realizes that the best choice financially would have been to fade much later on and stay at home but he simply couldn't put up with all the ridiculous restrictions... he now feels like a caged bird that has just been set free, so I doubt he'll ever consider moving back or going back to meetings... ain't gonna happen...
Billy... Thanks... excellent suggestion! ... but I think he'll probably require about 3 more years of deprogramming before considering military service.
Scully... thanks for your insight and support!... I'm on top of it... I do intend to help him financially, but only if/when he is on the brink of going broke... I think the worst thing I can do right now is help him prematurely... there's nothing like having a sense of pride that comes from knowing you put yourself through college with help from no one... I'd really like him to feel that satisfaction... if he fails, I'll be there for him... but this kid is determined... something tells me I won't need to send him a dime (until he graduates)
Jamie... Thanks!!! that would be most appreciated.
Flipper... I will ... thanks!
Thanks to everyone else as well... just a note to clarify... his parents were only helping him pay for college... the portion that he simply couldn't cover... but with the student loan he applied for yesterday, he has bought himself some time... thanks again!!!
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My 18-yr old college freshman nephew has just been cut off for leaving the JWs...
by Alfred ini spoke about him in a previous thread... he's the nicest kid you'll ever meet... smart, humble, shows respect and is very kind to everyone around him... except for one minor thing... you guessed it... he no longer believes in the jw religion.
also, he feels it is simply a place for hopeless people to gather and give each other moral support without actually doing anything productive to better their lives... i won't get into the details on how he arrived at this conclusion... suffice to say, he did not want to be a part of this crowd any longer.. incredibly, when he was a lot younger, he was able to convince his jw father (a po) and his jw mother (my sister) that they should let him go to college when he turns 18 (and help him pay for it!!!).
so they started putting some money away and my nephew has been in college since september!.
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Alfred
band... thanks for your insight and advice... much appreciated