That's how they built the Assemby Hall in Ajalvir, Spain (before selling it for a fat profit recently)... the WT even blatantly admits that poor Spanish kids sold their toys so that this assembly hall could be built (because the GB had no intention of spending one red cent for this hall)...
Posts by Alfred
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12WT Seeking Donations Of Gold: News To Me... When and Where?
by Room 215 ini noted in a thread on kingdom hall remodelling that some mentioned that a call for donations of gold jewellery was made from the platform.
since this sounds like something that would have been presented by a part on the service meeting and therefore noted in the kingdom ministry schedule, can anyone recall the specifics of this?
if so, how recently?
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The Story of Randall Watters part II - Trouble at Bethel
by Dogpatch inmy story part 2: trouble at bethel.
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[endif]by my third year at bethel i was really enjoying it and determined to make bethel a life career.
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Alfred
"Others were implicated and disfellowshipped as well, such as fellow translators Nestor Kuilan and his wife, as well as Rene Vazquez."
Recently, my wife and I have become friends with Nestor Kuilan and his wife Toni... he's 73 years old now and doing extremely well. He has some really interesting stories about bethel and his time in Spain as missionary and CO... I've been trying to convince him to tell his story here but he prefers to leave the past behind him. He is literally the kindest most humble person I have ever met.
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Kingdom Hall remodel - scam
by Dagney ini was wondering from any here in the know, does it seem like there is a lot of "remodels" going on?.
in the last week i had the occasion to talk with two jw's in different halls, about 10 miles apart.
they both are undergoing major remodels.
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Alfred
This is not only a good source of revenue for the Watchtower but it also increases FIELD SERVICE HOURS which can be used in assembly boasting sessions. (assuming they still allow JWs to count their time for putting up dry wall in the KH)
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Do Wicked Elders and Elderettes Think Jehovah Is Stupid?
by Bubblegum Apotheosis inbrother pathological liar has remained in his position (appointed by the holy spirit) for thirty years now.
he has no problem lying under oath.
(prayer before a judicial comitte, investigation) or slandering anyone who might stand up to his darkness.
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Alfred
there was an elder in my congo that I always tried to avoid as much as possible because he would somehow find a way to latch on to me and dump all the congo's latest gossip on me as if I were a reporter for the National Enquirer... i don't know what the hell made him think that I like listening to his rants because my uncomfortable body language (whenever he carried on with his gossip) was so obvious... but somehow he would sneak up behind me in FS or in the hall and start firing away about how sister chatty can't keep her mouth shut during meetings or how sister sexy always went to the bathroom to check her hair (wtf? how does he even know that?)...
also, whenever someone got df'd, the entire congo knew every last detail of the wrongdoing before the next meeting... i have to wonder whether it was this elder who spilled the beans... he just couldn't control himself...
by the way, he was also collecting disability insurance while regular pioneering and was very open about it!!! wtf???
but at least he was appointed by holy spirit.
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30 Minute Public Talk-CONFIRMED
by stillajwexelder ini can confirm (as there seems to be some doubt) at the service meeting last night during the item about the new watchtower, a letter was read by the po.
the public talk is to be 30 minutes long.
this is to allow for more association and ministry.. lengthy negative introductions about the state of the system of things/deep last days etc are to be heavily curtailed.
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Alfred
Commencing full lock-down procedure in 3, 2, 1....
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risc of allowed fractions
by inbetween ina brother in my hall mentioned in a twist of scriptures how we can thank the faithful slave class for warning us in connection with blood transfusions since 1945, because now the medical field recognises the riscs and try to minimize the use of blood.. despite the fatcs, that this statement is ridicolous in so many ways, i d like to find information (outside the "apostate" realm) that proves, that even allowed fractions are involing the risc of getting hepatitis, aids etc.... that would completely refute such a notion.. thx in advance... .
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Alfred
The so-called faithful & discreet slave could have warned us about eating apples and you'll always find some JWs (who are allergic to apples) who will thank the FDS for "discerning the scriptures" as the medical field is now recognizing the dangers of apples in some people. And the same could have been said about practically anything else that enters the human body. JWs have become so dumbed down over the years that most have lost their ability to reason logically... that is why the WT can easily convince them that their ridiculous interpretation of blood-related Bible texts was facilitated by the holy spirit...
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Alfred
MsGrowingGirl20... I believe several of us sent you PMs a few weeks ago... not sure if you saw those yet but you have to click on the envelope on the top right corner of this page...
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March 2012 Aux Pioneering
by truthlover inso far what is the response to the aux pioneering this year vs last year?.
in our cong - only 10 so far vs 52 last april.
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Alfred
Last April's extraordinary pioneering numbers were simply a result of many JWs believing that there was quite possibly something "divine" behind the GB's invitation to do a "dirty-thirty"... (that's not to say that peer pressure had nothing to do with it)...
However, since nothing out of the oridinary happened in Dub Land following that campaign, many JWs are quietly realizing that it was nothing more than a push to get some numbers on a scoreboard... not some sort of prelude to the start of the new system...
I believe the GB will put this on the shelf next year and just come out with some Nu-Lite to get everyone excited about going door-to-door during the 2013 memorial season... this "dirty-thirty" doesn't seem to be cutting it any more...
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Help! Strange request for info I heard in a Recorded (gasp!) Talk.
by PaintedToeNail ini heard a recording of a talk by a bro.
who's topic was something to the effect of 'coincidences in the history of wtbts and jehovah's direction'.
i believe it was an american bro., who claimed that a woman who owned a mansion in atlanta, at the time of general sherman's march to the sea, and subsequent burning of atlanta, had her mansion saved.
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Alfred
I've never heard that story. A long time ago, I did hear something about the Rothschilds financing the entire "Creation" film project as well as some early printed work by the Watchtower such as the book "Comfort for the Jews"...
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Attention Governing Body: October 2, 2014 is only 940 days away...
by Alfred inin 1823, john aquila brown (a man who is not mentioned in any wt publication) came up with a bizarre mathematical calculation which totalled 2,520 years (in an unauthorized attempt to predict the end of the gentile times).... several religions recycled this bizarre calculation, including the adventists and the bible students... when armageddon didn't come on the variety of early 20th century dates predicted by several "dooms-day" religions of that time (including charles taze russell's bible students who predicted that the big a would start in 1914), they all finally realized that this 2,520-year calculation was nothing more than arbitrary mathematical speculation derived from erratic biblical extrapolation.... except for the bible students who continued to move up the date for armageddon 2 more times (1918, 1925) and then decided to use wwi as the starting point for the "last days".. all the while, one thing that seems to remain intact is the october 2, 1914 date.
oddly, for the watchtower bible & tract publishing cult, this particular date still marks the end of the 2,520-year period (that john aquila brown referred to in his bizarre 1823 book "the even tide")... again, no mention of this in any watchtower publication.
but, for jws, that date still remains the starting point for the period of time often referred to as the "last days" or even "the generation that shall not pass".. because of this, the governing body has been forced to change the definition of "the generation that shall not pass" countless times since the early 1970's.
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Alfred
In 1823, John Aquila Brown (a man who is NOT mentioned in ANY WT publication) came up with a bizarre mathematical calculation which totalled 2,520 years (in an unauthorized attempt to predict the END of the Gentile Times)...
Several religions recycled this bizarre calculation, including the Adventists and the Bible Students... When Armageddon didn't come on the variety of early 20th century dates predicted by several "dooms-day" religions of that time (including Charles Taze Russell's Bible Students who predicted that the Big A would start in 1914), they all finally realized that this 2,520-year calculation was nothing more than arbitrary mathematical speculation derived from erratic Biblical extrapolation.... except for the Bible Students who continued to move up the date for Armageddon 2 more times (1918, 1925) and then decided to use WWI as the starting point for the "Last Days".
All the while, one thing that seems to remain intact is the October 2, 1914 date. Oddly, for the Watchtower Bible & Tract Publishing Cult, this particular date still marks the end of the 2,520-year period (that John Aquila Brown referred to in his bizarre 1823 book "The Even Tide")... Again, no mention of this in ANY Watchtower publication. But, for JWs, that date still remains the starting point for the period of time often referred to as the "Last Days" or even "the generation that shall not pass".
Because of this, the Governing Body has been forced to change the definition of "the generation that shall not pass" countless times since the early 1970's. But the expiration date of this latest definition is quickly approaching as well as the 100-year anniversay of the END of the Gentile Times (October 2, 2014).
Note to Governing Body: By now, I think you all realize that you are looking like clueless fools. That being said, in 940 days, your credibility will plummet to an all-time low... Do yourselves a favor NOW and admit that this entire doctrine is completely un-Biblical and unauthorized (Acts 1:7).
You have exactly 940 days remaining (until October 2, 2014)... Your time starts... NOW