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  How did/does your congregation view going out to eat AFTER the Memorial?

  by OneDayillBeFree in

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  2. experiences

  for us it used to be a big no-no, but i think it has slowly grown more acceptable since many of our elders would be starving during the whole reject jesus party.... i always thought it was a bit funny when i saw brothers and sisters almost celebrating with a big feast and drinks on the night that the good ol' messiah sacrificed himself for all humankind!

  it seems now more recently that since it is the only thing witnessess can celebrate, they go all out!

  maybe i'll join in the festivities too.. so what about you guys?

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  Alfred

  Never heard of it being a no-no.... In my area it's a tradition... (for more info, see the following thread)

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/207581/1/Are-JWs-the-worst-restaurant-customers
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  So what do your Jehovah's Witness friends and loved ones think of the generation teaching?

  by garyneal in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after the little skit at the last assembly where one brother was asking another for understanding about the generation teaching i thought, "wow, these people will believe anything the watchtower tells them.

  " the 'more mature brother' practically said verbatim everything the watchtower said as his explanation.

  evidently, this is one of the sources of the increased 'murmuring' that the talked warned against.. so, has anyone brought this up to their witness friends and/or family?

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  Alfred

  Believe it or not, I got this response from an experienced elder: "What change? There was no change. Just an explanation on what is meant by the word generation. The doctrine is still the same as it's always been."

  I had to really bite my tongue because the only thing I could think of saying is: "Are you a f**king idiot???"

  Really frustrating. There wasn't even a hint of cognitive dissonance in his head... just plain stupidity...
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  Will Embracing the Internet lead to Increased Growth for the Watchtower?

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  more important than the reduction in the size of the new magazine is that the watchtower will be actively promoting its website and encouraging people use it to download magazines.

  my concern is that this has the potential to lead to an increase in growth for the watchtower.. the door-to-door preaching work has been one of the most inefficient means imaginable to gain converts, and done little more than tie up the time of active jws.

  now, by directing people to the internet, witnesses can spread their message at an alarming rate for little cost.. do you feel that this has the potential to lead to a surge in growth of jehovah's witnesses?

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  Alfred

  The last time I checked, the Top Ten Sites (other than Google) were... Facebook, YouTube, Yahoo, Live email, Wikipedia, MSN, BlogSpot, Bing, Microsoft.com and Ask.com...

  The Society claims that JW.org gets 400,000 daily hits... I don't know if that's a good number of hits or not but this site is ranked somewhere around 7,500 !!!

  Also, the reality is that most people don't turn on their computers to get their spirituality on, they go to their neighborhood church or turn on their TVs Sunday morning. That's plain reality.

  If the WT really want to broaden their internet presence, they sure have a L-O-N-G way to go...
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  Kool-Aid Man, Is Your Army Ready For The Memorial? Where did you go?

  by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  kool-aid man, is your plan to protest the memorial still in play?

  are you mia?.

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  Alfred

  I actually dialed into his call three times before I finally realized that the same 5 or 6 people were on the call, although Rick would always claim that his screen was completely lit up from callers all over the world (whatever that means)... I should have known better than to dial in, especially after having seen all the pictures of his 3-people protests.... Rick is so full of himself...
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses Plan on Looting the Dead

  by God_Delusion in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys and gals,.

  i've written a new article on what some jehovah's witnesses plan on doing after armageddon strikes.

  i am sure you've been around witnesses that have said something like "oh i'm moving into that house after armageddon.".

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  Alfred

  I knew a JW couple who "simplified" their lives to become regular pioneers. I think they simply couldn't find decent jobs so they decided to pioneer to elevate their status in the congo... they were such attention whores...

  Something that always caught my attention about them is that, during KH meetings, they would never waste an opportunity to comment on why it's so wrong to love material things... yet, in field service, you'd hear them say things like: "That's the kind of house I want in the new system" or "I hope Jehovah allows cars in the new system" or "I hope Jehovah lets me have a house with a big deck overlooking the ocean"... thereby exposing their true inclination towards material things...

  very hypocritical
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  Thought on the new 16 page Watchtower

  by Paralipomenon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear brothers,.

  wecome to the first issue of the smaller version of the watchtower.

  in this current digital age, more people are turning less to the printed page and more to online sources for their reading material.

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  Alfred

  Is the WT CD now available for MAC OS? I'm thinking they probably meant Android tablets... In any case, if in fact elders have been given the green light to use tablets during meetings, the WT lawyers better rethink this... it'll be a matter of time before a pedophile elder eventually taps the wrong area on his screen and exposes his latest browsing session during a KH meeting... (sorry for getting off topic... couldn't resist)
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  C.O. Is coming this week

  by Freeof1914 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i had the elders come to my house about two months at the time i told my wife and family that i was having doubts.

  they came by i explained my position and they basically told me i needed to be more humble and just tow the line like many others have before me.

  well i have not gone preaching or to any meeting for two months after that and did not recieve any phone call from the elders, which was fine by me .

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  Alfred

  I had a similar situation about 2 years ago... long story short: the CO was informed that I was perturbed over the Watchtower's handling of the 1975 fiasco... (but that was really only a small part of it). Anyway, the CO showed up with about 5 WT articles he had printed from the WT Library... Everytime he started to read one, I'd cut him off to let him know that "I read that already"... having no other printed material in front of him, he became stumped and looked to the elder to save his ass but the elder just sat there with a blank look on his face.

  Then... wait for it... you guessed it... they both went into the usual "who preaches worldwide, which doesn't participate in wars and who doesn't believe in the trinity" routine (their comfort zone), without acknowledging that the 1975 fiasco was a direct result of totally improvised doctrine that had no Biblical basis whatsoever...
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  Is the Watchtower shy about repeating their new "generation" teaching?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i recall in the 1980s talks and watchtower literature, magazines and books were always talking about the "generation" teaching and how it proved armageddon was going to come any day now.. but am i correct in thinking they have only actually mentioned the new "overlapping generations" teaching once or twice in the literature?

  why are they so shy about talking about their great new interpretation?

  it's almost enough to make you suspect they are a embarrassed about it.. mention it once or twice, don't dwell on it, hope everyone just accepts it, and don't bring it up again.

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  Alfred

  Acts 1:7 can't be any clearer... Speculation on when Jesus would return to establish his kingdom is NOT ALLOWED.
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  New World Order Connection

  by marriedtoajw in

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  2. friends

  i've heard and read so much conflicting information.

  never been a jw and i have only been to a couple of meetings years ago.

  what is the watchtowers teaching regarding the "new world order" as you guys were taught?.

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  Alfred

  Marriedtoajw

  By your comments, I'm assuming you've already figured out that the phrase "New World Order" comes from Freemasonry and refers to the hopes of establishing a united world government and a united world religon controlled by the jews at some point in the future. The WTBTS was in favor of a jewish-controlled world government (and may still be). This is why you'll notice older publications from Russell through Rutherford using this phrase.

  But to answer your question, the last mention of the phrase "New World Order" in WT literature was probably in the 1952 Watchtower magazine (November 15 page 696). But the phrase was slowly phased out and replaced with "New World Society" (used between the late 40's and the early 70's). Thereafter, the word "World" was dropped and the phrase simply became "New Order" (used between the early 70's and the mid 80's). Now the WTBTS simply uses "New System of Things" or "Paradise Earth".
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  Transcript Of Judicial Committee Meeting Of Dale & Bette Baker

  by Bangalore in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  transcript of judicial committee meeting of dale & bette baker.. http://www.jehovahswitnessbooks.com/2010/03/judicial-committee-meeting-of-dale.html.

  bangalore.

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  Alfred

  The main objective of JC's for suspected apostacy is to get the alleged apostate to admit that he no longer believes the Watchtower is God's organization. Questions are generally centered around that. Once they have that admission, they've got their "smoking gun" and can report back to the branch...

  JC to Branch: "Yeah, we got the son of bitch and he won't be a problem anymore."

  Branch to JC: "Excellent job boys. We'll keep you i mind for Circuit Assemblly talks and other high-visibility responsabilities."