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Posts by Alfred
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13"...baptizing them in the name of the Father and of Watchtower Society and of the holy spirit "
by irondork inif baptism is really a symbol of one's dedication to god, as the wts agrees it is, then why would someone who was baptized years earlier need to be re-baptized after studying with jehovah's witnesses?
in discussing the two questions asked of baptismal candidates, the watchtower, april 1, 2006, page 22 par 4 says:.
therefore, those who qualify for baptism have usually studied the bible for months or even a year or two, so that their decision is neither hasty nor ill-informed.
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Less literature for Field Service means more Bible usage...
by Alfred ini recently asked my jw elder brother (who thinks i'm just "inactive") what he makes of the reduction in pages of the wt & awake rags.... his response was something like:.
well this was something that has been discussed for a long time.
the society feels that the brothers need to start using the bible more in field service so they are slowly reducing the pages of the literature to encourage the brothers to read the bible more and not depend so much on the literature.
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Alfred
I recently asked my JW elder brother (who thinks I'm just "inactive") what he makes of the reduction in pages of the WT & Awake rags...
His response was something like:
Well this was something that has been discussed for a long time. The Society feels that the brothers need to start using the Bible more in Field Service so they are slowly reducing the pages of the literature to encourage the brothers to read the Bible more and not depend so much on the literature. They're doing this because they know the Great Tribulation is just around the corner and we may not be able to use our literature as freely as in the past.
I'm not going to bore you with the discussion that followed... suffice to say that my reaction to all of this was:
WTF???
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30-minute Public Talk = More association ???
by Alfred init's been nearly 5 years since the letter was read at the end of the service meeting.
the society would lovingly decrease the public talk to a brief 30 minutes, eliminating the 15-minute doom-and-gloom introduction and thereby resulting in lower heating and air-conditioning costs allowing for more "association" after the meeting.... for those who still go to meetings... do you find that there is any more association with the 30-min public talk when compared to the former 45-min public talk?.
please share your observations.. thanks!.
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Alfred
It's been nearly 5 years since the letter was read at the end of the Service Meeting. The Society would lovingly decrease the Public Talk to a brief 30 minutes, eliminating the 15-minute doom-and-gloom introduction and thereby resulting in lower heating and air-conditioning costs allowing for more "association" after the meeting...
For those who still go to meetings... Do you find that there is any more association with the 30-min Public Talk when compared to the former 45-min Public Talk?
Please share your observations.
Thanks!
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Why are Henry Grew and Georg Storrs mentioned so often recently?
by Hoffnung inwhen i checked the wtlib cd-rom, i noticed that henry grew and georg storrs were mentioned only 5 times each from 1950 - 1999. then at once from 2000 onwards, both get more than 50 hits.
why is it that they are now portrayed together with russel as the founding fathers of the faith?
is russel so much of a problem to the gb 2.0 that they have to put 2 others in front of him to deviate the attention?
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Alfred
Because Henry Grew and George Storrs were FREEMASONS
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Latest Awake proves lopping off 16 pages will be no loss
by therevealer init is to obvious that they are working thier butts off to fill 32.
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Alfred
The next Awake! will be about the dangers of microwave ovens that are made with aluminum parts by employees who practice yoga...
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Spot the obvious mistake with this JW pamphlet.
by biometrics in.
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that's right it should be "1970s"(without the apostrophe) not "1970's"..
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Alfred
Big Oil conquered the world in the 1970's.
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Alfred
My brother is an elder... However, he NEVER wanted to be an elder or carry that kind of responsibility on his shoulders. In fact, would always avoid the subject and make up excuses whenever he was approached by the BOE. But my brother happens to be a push-over and the BOE knew they could "persuade" him eventually... so they started working on him with the guilt-tripping (i.e. "we really need your help, you can do so much more for Jehovah, etc .) and after many years of this, my brother finally caved in... Now he is extremely miserable but is simply too afraid to speak up and much less step down because of all the pressure he feels (with the congo not having enough elders, etc.) ... so sad.
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No answer to this one!
by truthseeker1969 inas many of you know my brother an elder was called on to sit in a "judicial committee" re-instatement.. the brother has in the past done all he can to prove he is repentant but this time the co was here and apparently had a few things to say to the cobe when they were discussing the process.
the co asked why the poor guy had four re-instatement hearings and why the co had received a letter from him detailing that he "did not think he could do anymore".. anyway, long story short, the co sat in the hearing and hey presto the brother was re-instated.
my brother and the co spoke with the brother and the co said that he had done well and was sorry that the process has taken so long and shook his hand.. now he mentioned the latest letter about confidentiality and said that the society is being hit left right and center with civil lawsuits and are scared as the have no way of defending them.
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Alfred
They are workers that are compensated with a Status of REGULAR.
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No answer to this one!
by truthseeker1969 inas many of you know my brother an elder was called on to sit in a "judicial committee" re-instatement.. the brother has in the past done all he can to prove he is repentant but this time the co was here and apparently had a few things to say to the cobe when they were discussing the process.
the co asked why the poor guy had four re-instatement hearings and why the co had received a letter from him detailing that he "did not think he could do anymore".. anyway, long story short, the co sat in the hearing and hey presto the brother was re-instated.
my brother and the co spoke with the brother and the co said that he had done well and was sorry that the process has taken so long and shook his hand.. now he mentioned the latest letter about confidentiality and said that the society is being hit left right and center with civil lawsuits and are scared as the have no way of defending them.
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Alfred
Compensation comes in many forms... money, benefits, power, status, etc...
For JWs, compensation comes in the form of status... Turn in at least 15 minutes a month and your status is REGULAR... Fail to do so and you status becomes IRREGULAR or INACTIVE.
JWs, therefore, are NOT volunteers.
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i am a regular pioneer in my cong reading crisis of conscience.here goes...
by MsGrowingGirl20 ini'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.
i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.
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Alfred
there's no easy way to leave... you just have to do it and get it over with... that's just my opinion