Posts by Alfred

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CO Visits... Are elders honest about the TRUE state of the congregation?

by Alfred in

this question is really for elders or ex-elders (or ministerial servants in the know).... did you find that some elders would tend to "white-wash" the true state of the congregation when they had their sit-down with the co every 6 months?.

did some elders feel pressure to hide certain things from a co for fear of being "removed" from the boe?.

(judging by the "fakeness" that some elders displayed during co visits, i have to wonder whether they were really worried about being removed for not seeking out inactives or encouraging more participation during the wt study, book study or fs...).

Alfred

This question is really for elders or ex-elders (or ministerial servants in the know)...

Did you find that some elders would tend to "white-wash" the TRUE state of the congregation when they had their sit-down with the CO every 6 months?

Did some elders feel pressure to hide certain things from a CO for fear of being "removed" from the BOE?

(Judging by the "fakeness" that some elders displayed during CO visits, I have to wonder whether they were really worried about being removed for not seeking out inactives or encouraging more participation during the WT Study, Book Study or FS...)

Looking forward to your comments...

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30-minute Public Talk = More association ???

by Alfred in

it's been nearly 5 years since the letter was read at the end of the service meeting.

the society would lovingly decrease the public talk to a brief 30 minutes, eliminating the 15-minute doom-and-gloom introduction and thereby resulting in lower heating and air-conditioning costs allowing for more "association" after the meeting.... for those who still go to meetings... do you find that there is any more association with the 30-min public talk when compared to the former 45-min public talk?.

please share your observations.. thanks!.

Alfred

One time I was forced to stay behind (i think an elder wanted me to look at the back-up generator... can't remember)... anyways, I thought I was the only one who ran for the exit right after the closing prayer... turns out that everyone else did too, only they allowed about 3 to 5 minutes so it wouldn't look so obvious..

Thanks to everyone for sharing!

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Credit Card Donation terminals are currently being installed in JWs Assembly Halls...

by AndersonsInfo in

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i received the following email from a former jw that i thought to share.

note: i retyped the boe letter that was sent from the christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses to all congregations in the us.

the letter is authentic.

Alfred

I'm sure the Society's "Geek Squad" has already figured out an easy way to identify the high-end and low-end contributors. High-end contributors ($1,000+ per year) with at least 10 hours per month in Field Circus will get "special" privileges like the sound booth at assemblies. Low-end contributors will simply get "marked" (regardless of Field Circus hours).

They have this sh*t figured out, don't they?

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"...baptizing them in the name of the Father and of Watchtower Society and of the holy spirit "

by irondork in

if baptism is really a symbol of one's dedication to god, as the wts agrees it is, then why would someone who was baptized years earlier need to be re-baptized after studying with jehovah's witnesses?

in discussing the two questions asked of baptismal candidates, the watchtower, april 1, 2006, page 22 par 4 says:.

therefore, those who qualify for baptism have usually studied the bible for months or even a year or two, so that their decision is neither hasty nor ill-informed.

Alfred

that started in 1985

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Less literature for Field Service means more Bible usage...

by Alfred in

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i recently asked my jw elder brother (who thinks i'm just "inactive") what he makes of the reduction in pages of the wt & awake rags.... his response was something like:.

well this was something that has been discussed for a long time.

the society feels that the brothers need to start using the bible more in field service so they are slowly reducing the pages of the literature to encourage the brothers to read the bible more and not depend so much on the literature.

Alfred

I recently asked my JW elder brother (who thinks I'm just "inactive") what he makes of the reduction in pages of the WT & Awake rags...

His response was something like:

Well this was something that has been discussed for a long time. The Society feels that the brothers need to start using the Bible more in Field Service so they are slowly reducing the pages of the literature to encourage the brothers to read the Bible more and not depend so much on the literature. They're doing this because they know the Great Tribulation is just around the corner and we may not be able to use our literature as freely as in the past.

I'm not going to bore you with the discussion that followed... suffice to say that my reaction to all of this was:

WTF???

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30-minute Public Talk = More association ???

by Alfred in

it's been nearly 5 years since the letter was read at the end of the service meeting.

the society would lovingly decrease the public talk to a brief 30 minutes, eliminating the 15-minute doom-and-gloom introduction and thereby resulting in lower heating and air-conditioning costs allowing for more "association" after the meeting.... for those who still go to meetings... do you find that there is any more association with the 30-min public talk when compared to the former 45-min public talk?.

please share your observations.. thanks!.

Alfred

It's been nearly 5 years since the letter was read at the end of the Service Meeting. The Society would lovingly decrease the Public Talk to a brief 30 minutes, eliminating the 15-minute doom-and-gloom introduction and thereby resulting in lower heating and air-conditioning costs allowing for more "association" after the meeting...

For those who still go to meetings... Do you find that there is any more association with the 30-min Public Talk when compared to the former 45-min Public Talk?

Please share your observations.

Thanks!

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Why are Henry Grew and Georg Storrs mentioned so often recently?

by Hoffnung in

when i checked the wtlib cd-rom, i noticed that henry grew and georg storrs were mentioned only 5 times each from 1950 - 1999. then at once from 2000 onwards, both get more than 50 hits.

why is it that they are now portrayed together with russel as the founding fathers of the faith?

is russel so much of a problem to the gb 2.0 that they have to put 2 others in front of him to deviate the attention?

Alfred

Because Henry Grew and George Storrs were FREEMASONS

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Latest Awake proves lopping off 16 pages will be no loss

by therevealer in

it is to obvious that they are working thier butts off to fill 32.

Alfred

The next Awake! will be about the dangers of microwave ovens that are made with aluminum parts by employees who practice yoga...

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Spot the obvious mistake with this JW pamphlet.

by biometrics in

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that's right it should be "1970s"(without the apostrophe) not "1970's"..

Alfred

Big Oil conquered the world in the 1970's.

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Whats the real reason men want to become elders?

by usualusername in

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discuss..............

Alfred

My brother is an elder... However, he NEVER wanted to be an elder or carry that kind of responsibility on his shoulders. In fact, would always avoid the subject and make up excuses whenever he was approached by the BOE. But my brother happens to be a push-over and the BOE knew they could "persuade" him eventually... so they started working on him with the guilt-tripping (i.e. "we really need your help, you can do so much more for Jehovah, etc .) and after many years of this, my brother finally caved in... Now he is extremely miserable but is simply too afraid to speak up and much less step down because of all the pressure he feels (with the congo not having enough elders, etc.) ... so sad.