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  Talks And Older Publications For Download

  by Bangalore in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i found this site where one can download watchtower talks and old publications.

  lots of stuff there.. .

  http://www.myiphonestuff.info/qwotes/reexamine/.

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  Alfred

  Thanks Bangalore... i found a ton of stuff I'd been looking for ...
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  Regular Pioneers: How low will the WT go?

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i just came across an article in the watchtower (december 1, 1959 page 726) where it mentions that pioneers (or should i say culportuers?

  ) in the 1930s had to put in a minimum of 150 hoursper month in field circus with the phonograph (i'm guessing the record being played was rutherford's "millions" speech).

  i have to wonder how many pioneers the wt would actually have nowadays if this were still the minimum monthly quota and if they'd still have to stand on a street corner with some sort of audio system... in today's economy, i really don't think they'll find much more than 2 potential candidates per circuit... which is obviously the reason that the gb keeps lowering the bar... .

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  Alfred

  Call me crazy, but based on the WT's recent desperation move with the April Aux Pioneer "coupon", I think the GB will eventually be forced to eliminate ALL the pioneer designations (AUX, REG, Special) and simply have one designation across the board... "Pioneer", period. The minimum hours will probably be based on some easy benchmark (for example: the previous year's average hours per publisher multiplied by 3 just to set the "pioneers" apart from the lowly "publishers" or some other "loving provision"). Special Pioneers will likely continue to exist but they'll probably just call them "Missionaries" or some other familiar term and they'll be less of them (just to give the false impression that the "worldwide work" is reaching its end). Their minimum hours will probably be some small percentage above the pioneer's new minimum. I realize that I could be dead wrong about all of this but they do appear to be trending in that direction... 2014 will likely be an interesting year for the WT...
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  There is no happy endings for Jehovahs witnesses

  by Star tiger in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's sad too say that all of us good people that believed in a happy ending through justice that god would protect us, is a false promise, it us mere humans that make our lives and however we chose to lives this is our lot, no mystic new order or paradise earth, we make our own destiny!!!.

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  the star tiger.

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  Alfred

  I agree with Star Tiger... At some point in our lives, I believe we all begin to realize that we are trully masters of our own destiny... JW or not, we all choose to be either happy or sad (luck has nothing to do with it)...
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  craziest reason elders wanted to have a commitee meeting with you

  by glentrevette in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i had a sister who was a tenant in my house and her car was leaking oil all over my newly paved driveway before she moved in i had a condition on the lease that said if her car leaked oil she couldnt park there and i told here after she moved in that she was being deceptive to me when she said her car didnt leak oil she was good friends with a lot of powerful elders in the hall and would you believe they asked to meet with me 3 elders in the back room of the library because they said i had called this sister a liar i got out of it only after i produced a copy of the lease and pictures of the oil mess if i hadnt of had pictures maybe i would of been dfd.

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  Alfred

  JRK... sounds like the "fart" word was your 3rd strike... does that mean you have been an auxiliary pioneer if you had said "passing gas" instead?
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  Wasted day at Watchtower Headquarters.

  by Philadelphia Ponos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was under the impression that the watchtower headquarters in brooklyn contained all the literature in every language.

  well imagine my surprise when after traveling all the way to new york and burning about $50 on cab fare that the only book they had in the langauge i needed was a songbook.

  if literature in foreign languages are stored in brooklyn, where else are they kept in the u.s?.

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  Alfred

  I'm sure they have their private stash somewhere... probably in the safe behind Rutherford's old liquor cabinet...
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  craziest reason elders wanted to have a commitee meeting with you

  by glentrevette in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i had a sister who was a tenant in my house and her car was leaking oil all over my newly paved driveway before she moved in i had a condition on the lease that said if her car leaked oil she couldnt park there and i told here after she moved in that she was being deceptive to me when she said her car didnt leak oil she was good friends with a lot of powerful elders in the hall and would you believe they asked to meet with me 3 elders in the back room of the library because they said i had called this sister a liar i got out of it only after i produced a copy of the lease and pictures of the oil mess if i hadnt of had pictures maybe i would of been dfd.

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  Alfred

  That is such a trivial reason to hold a star chamber hearing... the elders should have simply told her to grow up and deal with it... give me a break...

  That being said, maybe she's one of those people who simply won't notice anything if their car springs a leak... you know, the ones that are completely oblivious when it comes to mechanical things... I'm just saying...
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  If your parents made you spend week after week doing this ...

  by just n from bethel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxkslwy8byu&feature=related.

  you probably never developed skills like this 12 year old.... .

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyyxnjgruro&feature=player_embedded#at=129.

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  Alfred

  My dad made recordings of me practicing my talk so I could hear how stupid I sounded... I became really self-conscious about my speaking ability at a very young age...
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  For born in's: how did your parents get you to answer up?

  by highdose in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my mum used to smack me on the arm with a rolled up wt when it was my turn to answer, she said it was " to make sure you didn't forget!".

  most of the time i ended up just yelling "ow!

  " and rubbing my arm, but she never got the message.. another way was to scream at me non stop all the way home after the meetings if i hadn't answered up.

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  Alfred

  I wasn't allowed to play with my worldy friends from the neighborhood unless I answered every Tues, Thurs and Sunday at least once per meeting... but it was a fairly easy rule to follow.. I would just read a text or say "Jehovah" or "the Bible" or some other easy response... However, if I fell asleep during the service meeting (which I occasionally did), I would get a severe spanking when we got home... How dare I disrespect Jehovah by falling asleep in his house? Made me feel like sh*t...
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  Ideal Paradise

  by WontLeave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  am i the only one who's in awe at the stock invested in the average jw's correlation to the society's publications and the probability of what the new world will be?

  from my conversations with people in the various congregations i've been in, i've pieced together their concept of the new system:.

  women and clean-shaved men in casual-business attire constantly gardening adjacent to tiger cubs.

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  Alfred

  Lions and bears will have straight teeth so they can easily chew on grass like the other animals. Sharks will also have straight teeth so they can easily chew on sea weed and other underwater vegetation. Eagles and other "agressive" birds will also have straight teeth so they can chew on the leaves of trees. Anything is possible with Jehovah and the Governing Body.
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  Regular Pioneers: How low will the WT go?

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i just came across an article in the watchtower (december 1, 1959 page 726) where it mentions that pioneers (or should i say culportuers?

  ) in the 1930s had to put in a minimum of 150 hoursper month in field circus with the phonograph (i'm guessing the record being played was rutherford's "millions" speech).

  i have to wonder how many pioneers the wt would actually have nowadays if this were still the minimum monthly quota and if they'd still have to stand on a street corner with some sort of audio system... in today's economy, i really don't think they'll find much more than 2 potential candidates per circuit... which is obviously the reason that the gb keeps lowering the bar... .

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  Alfred

  So I just came across an article in the Watchtower (December 1, 1959 page 726) where it mentions that pioneers (or should I say culportuers?) in the 1930s had to put in a minimum of 150 hoursper month in field circus with the phonograph (I'm guessing the record being played was Rutherford's "Millions" speech). I have to wonder how many pioneers the WT would actually have nowadays if this were still the minimum monthly quota and if they'd still have to stand on a street corner with some sort of audio system... In today's economy, I really don't think they'll find much more than 2 potential candidates per circuit... which is obviously the reason that the GB keeps lowering the bar...

  But I have to ask: How low do you think the WT will go (on the monthly min hrs) before regular pioneers eventually reach the treshold of losing their "elevated status" in the Congo? 65 hours? 50 hours? 35 hours?