Posts by GrandmaJones

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Rutherford Conspriracy

by fadinfast in

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having read up on rutherford, but certainly not all that is out there by any means,[ so if it has been discussed point me in the right direction] one thought keeps coming to mind.

when he brought himself to the 'top of the ladder' as ray franz brought out he had a chronological nightmare, 'he was faced with two choices: rectifying by.

frank admission of error, or trying to justify the predictions of his.

GrandmaJones

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/best-of/77958/1/The-Best-of-Rutherford-info

I have found these topics VERY interesting. There is a bunch, and if you haven't read them all, you should. I loved it!

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Do JW's read other books?

by InterestedOne in

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when i ask my jw friend if she has read various classic books, she says, "i don't like to read.

" however, she of course reads all the wt stuff.

i don't know too many jw's, but the ones i have seen in the meetings seem mostly uneducated and, even when speaking from the platform, seem almost illiterate - that is, unable to pronounce certain words even in the wt literature.

GrandmaJones

I am a very avid reader and always have been. My family has expressed disapproval of some of my reading choices. I love history and politics.

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Quotes by Voltaire - Do you agree and Why?

by Lady Lee in

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ok i want to stimulate some thinking.

i'm going to list a bunch of quotes attributed to voltaire - someone i had never thought to read.

but coming across a couple of quotes of his i thought they were rather profound.. so here is the deal.

GrandmaJones

No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible.

I love this. We all have to take individual responsibility. We can't blame it on the greater powers. We helped when we supported it.

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My belated story

by sabastious in

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i haven't really spelled out my story in a single post yet and i think it would prudent.

so here it is and i apologize in advance for it being so long.. .

all of you had to make the truth your own at some point in your life.

GrandmaJones

This forum is a lifesaver. Thanks to Simon and those that help.

Sab, I am so saddened to hear of the rejection you have had to face. Your wife sounds perfectly wonderful and so does her family. I hope this ends here and no further action is taken, but it sounds like your family may have made up their minds anyway.

And people wonder why anyone becomes an apostate?

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What was it like growing up as a JW ? You need to read this !!

by Hairyhegoat in

what was it like growing up in a jehovahs witness household?.

growing up in a jehovahs witness household was very confusing.

i learned very early on what hypocrisy meant.

GrandmaJones

OH

MY

GOD!!!

My heart is breaking reading your story. You are a true survivor! Thank god for your husband and your writing. Sharing a story like yours helps bring home the hell that the organization can put children through. Have you posted on the SilentLambs? Your story needs to be told. It will give hope to the many people who aren't sure that they can ever have a happy life.

Keep on writing. You have a wonderful way of expressing yourself.

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Are mentally ill people possessed by demons? Watchtower view.

by ThomasCovenant in

watchtower 15th march 1953 page 191.. ''there is no reason to think that they [demons] cannot possess persons today.. this is not to say that all those mentally sick are so possessed, for they are not.. mentally sick persons, however, in their weakened state, may present more vulnerable targets for their assaults and invasions.. some show evidence of demon possession, whereas others show evidences of merely mental sickness or nervous breakdown.

'' (emphasis mine).

i for one would not want to work with people with mental illness or depression just in case they were possessed by some of those pesky spirits.. .

GrandmaJones

This is another YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING kind of thread. Demons causing blindness and epilepsy? This is all anyone who is mentally ill needs.

Let's question him/her to see if they are demonized!

Wow. How can anyone believe this? Perhaps those who believe this kind of garbage should be carefully questioned. Perhaps they are demonized too.

I have to say, I don't understand how the Watchtower can let this kind of thinking go on.

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It Is Not the First Time

by AGuest in

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to the household of god, israel, and those who go with, may you all have peace!.

i have not been posting "a lot" lately (not that i post a lot, considering the averages) and there is a reason: i have another bit to share and just wasn't up to the "fight" that usually comes when i do so.

so, i had to take a step back and let our lord refresh me a bit and give me the strength... and flint-y forehead... that i would need to follow through with this post.