I have to agree w/ Bro Dan. I was raised as a JW and only left a few years ago. When I was a child, I remember the older ones in the congregation who were very adamant about preaching, not about what you can or can't do, but about how God's Kingdom is the only solution to mankind's problems. It was a little simpler back then (in the late '70's and early 80's) at least as I remember it. As I got older and more involved, I learned that listening to the GB was essential to salvation. I also learned that, and this is a direct quote: "If the society tells us to plant our cabbage upside down, we plant our cabbage upside down!" I can't believe it took me another 10 years to get out after hearing that. That being said, I have always said that I don't discourage my son who is 17 and baptized from being a JW because I view it as a protection. I know for a fact that being a witness throughout my teen years kept me out of a lot of trouble that I know I would have gotten into.
drewcoul
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Was this ever a good religion to be in?
by whatistruth inwhere sincerity, mercy, love predominated the witnesses at one time?
or has it always been like it is today, corrupt, hypocritical, abuse of power, unloving?
just curious if it started out with good intentions and then like anything else as time goes on and it becomes too big for unqualified people to handle it, it all goes bad..
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little cantleave wants to say hi
by nugget inmy son wants to say hi to everyone on the forum.
as one of the main drivers to us exiting the cult he is very excited about never going to a meeting again.. if i knew how to load pictures i would let you see his plan for christmas lights next year.
apparently we are having a sleigh with reigndeers.
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drewcoul
Hi little Cantleave! Nice to meet you. I just had my first Christmas this past year and I'm 38 years old!!!! It was fun, and everybody was just happy to be together to play games and eat and exchange presents!
Have Fun!!
-Drew
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The Lord's Witnesses - Great Tribulation to start 13.1.11
by dozy inok - watch out for tomorrow morning folks.
http://www.truebiblecode.com/.
i've occasionally followed the dealings of this jw splinter group headed by former jw gordon ritchie - he was interviewed in the times a couple of years ago - http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/the_way_we_live/article4014800.ece.
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drewcoul
Um, well, I kind of don't have the time to invest in reading all of that page.......I'm just going to take your word for it, dozy. And I'm going to use my bible trained judgement and get ready for work in the morning like normal. But tell this Gordon dude I said "Thanks for the heads up!" LOL
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Only the Governing Body is the FDS
by Listener ini hadn't noticed this before but the governing body is actually saying that they only are the faithful & discreet slave.. watchtower 2009 6/15 para 18 .
similarly, today a limited number of anointed men have the responsibility of representing the slave class.
they make up the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.
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drewcoul
Has anyone had an in-depth discussion with an active, believing JW about this? It is a huge conundrum for the GB. If they are the FDS along with the other members of the remnant, they should seek input from the other members of the FDS......If they feel they don't need to get input, they are essentially saying they are modern day apostles and therefore what they say must be inspired by God, since this would mean God is using only them to feed the "domestics." I brought this up to my JW mom and she said I'd have to ask my brother since he knows more about that kind of thing than she does, she just knows it's the truth and that's all she needs. The problem is my brother won't talk to me about much at all let alone ANYTHING that has to do with religion.
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Ties between Society and local KH
by Band on the Run ini was wondering how the witnesses tend to not have much education.
it takes skill to administer the dictates of the brooklyn centered society down to the local kingdom hall level.
other religions do this but they have a professional clergy class with old school networking.
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drewcoul
CO's and DO's are able to get money from the Witnesses in the congregations they serve. I used to have a roommate who became a CO. He used to tell me how generous the bros were.
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Moral Dilemma
by Mattieu inexcuse me so called holy spirit directed governing body; what do you do when you discover that a long term hospital liaison committee elder who gives talks at all1 day assemblies, 2 day assemblies & district assemblies and is quite prominent n the victorian/nsw circuit, is addicted to pornography, particularly under age and bestiality porno?
and oh, if you have print outs of his internet log ins and internet history fully detailing his log ins from his work computer???
and im not talking breach of privacy, im talking his breach of work usage of computers, of which im in charge of the it.
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drewcoul
There is probably no liability on the company for him to go to the elders with it. The company owns all data transmitted through their server. The elder in this case cannot sue them because they own his computer and have a right to the information he transmits and receives. The only issue would be if they do not want anyone else knowing about this. The elder has absolutely no standing with regard to what anyone knowing and having information about his web activity so long as his company approves of the giving of the information. He doesn't own the information, the company does.
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Moral Dilemma
by Mattieu inexcuse me so called holy spirit directed governing body; what do you do when you discover that a long term hospital liaison committee elder who gives talks at all1 day assemblies, 2 day assemblies & district assemblies and is quite prominent n the victorian/nsw circuit, is addicted to pornography, particularly under age and bestiality porno?
and oh, if you have print outs of his internet log ins and internet history fully detailing his log ins from his work computer???
and im not talking breach of privacy, im talking his breach of work usage of computers, of which im in charge of the it.
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BTW......Elders love salatious wrongdoings of other elders, don't let them fool you.
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Moral Dilemma
by Mattieu inexcuse me so called holy spirit directed governing body; what do you do when you discover that a long term hospital liaison committee elder who gives talks at all1 day assemblies, 2 day assemblies & district assemblies and is quite prominent n the victorian/nsw circuit, is addicted to pornography, particularly under age and bestiality porno?
and oh, if you have print outs of his internet log ins and internet history fully detailing his log ins from his work computer???
and im not talking breach of privacy, im talking his breach of work usage of computers, of which im in charge of the it.
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drewcoul
Is looking through individual browser history part of your job responsibilities? I understand you are in IT, but that doesn't mean you are required to monitor everyone's internet usage does it? If it does, why not tell the MD that this guy is looking at porn (which you did) and then explain to him that this guy is an elder and you need to report it to the congregation. Not for work purposes, but for the congregation. You can do this to get cover from your employer......Then do as Georgie Girl suggests and meet with him and two other elders, and you might ask to do it at your office, and invite the Janitor to give his side, so that the elder in question can make the accusation of "It was the janitor" in front of the janitor.
It seems you have the right and responsibility to do something, but be deliberate in what you do. Protect yourself and your job first.
Just my opinion.
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New resolution passed at last service meeting? crazy!!
by finallyfree! inso my ex who has gone back to the wts and is being given the tough love and is questioning whether shes makin the right move.
she told me at the last service meeting that there was a resolution passed that stated that all leftover balances in the congregations accounts would be sent to the society to be used where the need is great, to help out with natural disasters etc and that the funds would be sent back to the congregation if they needed it.. has anyone else who is still in or knows active witnesses heard of this new resolution?
apparently its everywhere in canada as far as i was told .. .
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When we had a resolution for a new KH, there were a few that voted against it. One was an elder and his wife who were counseled to not try to voice their displeasure since it could create division within the congregation. We had 3 congregations in one hall at the time, and we were going to build a new KH for two of the congregations and the other one would keep the old hall. We built it NEXT DOOR!!! Literally. It was in 1990 in Lafayette, IN. I thought it was unnecessary especially since we always hear about how much trouble people in other countries have in getting a KH, or how crowded they are. It seemed to me that the poorer brothers in other parts of the world could have used it more than us.........Our old KH was eventually sold to a Greek Orthodox Church......Even though it was dedicated to Jehovah at one time.......
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Voting a conscience matter??
by Cynisister inhappy new year one and all!,.
the local elders sent a letter home with my hubby, pretty much stating that after "many" attempts to visit and speak with me, this letter is once again asking to meet because it came to their attention that i voted in the last pres.
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drewcoul
That is exactly how I remember it too. It came out that no one should judge someone if they are found to have voted, but someone who votes should understand that they may be accountable to God for the actions of anyone they voted for if they are elected.