while watching this series on leaving your religion i couldn't help but see the similarities with my own experience.. it's a bit long (13 parts), but well worth it.
i hope you all enjoy.
believers and non-believers alike.. .
I just watched the last part of the video, but the book mentioned, "Leaving the Fold" by Marlene Winell is great! They had it at my library, and it has been helpful so far at processing my JW upbringing and starting to heal. It's amazing to see the similarites of JWs with other Christian fundamentalists, and helps you feel like you're really not alone.
Thank you for posting!
this post is going to seem erratic to some, but i'm afraid it's the best i can do.
i can only write on this board during the spare moments i have when my mother is not in the home.
so i need to get as much info in per thread as possible given the time constraints.
I had this question last year, got my husband to make up a timeline, and he could not come up with the correct date (607). He was off by a few years. He didn't think that was a big deal, but then I asked how we know 1914 is correct if the years are off? He soon realized that we can't really be sure of any dates, including 537, 607 and 1914.
The book Gentile Times Reconsidered has lots of facts to show 607 isn't the date. My husband didn't read that book though because he didn't like the "tone," and felt it was apostate.
After a year, my husband is beginning to realize things aren't making sense with this religion. I planted a few seeds, and then totally backed off. Like your wife, I also believed that the GB was God's mouthpiece. What got me was the new generation teaching. Everything I learned as a child has now been changed (generation, sealing of 144K in 1935, number of memorial partakers going up). Why did Jehovah inspire the GB to write things and later change them? If this keeps happening, why should we believe anything they say now if it's going to be obsolete in 15-20 years? I mentioned those questions to my husband and hoped they would grow.
*Check your PM*
in the night that his expulsion from jehovah's witnesses was to be announced, sd-7 took a pop tart, gave thanks to no one, not even kellogg's, broke it, and passed it to himself, saying, "take, eat.
this means my body, which no longer sits in a kingdom hall.
keep chewing this in remembrance of me.
Your song is hilarious! Love the Pop Tart-ed bread. Congrats on your freedom.
okay, before you fly off the handle--i wrote a blog on how my research proves jw's are a cult (no, i haven't read the cult book yet).
somebody linked their own findings onto my site saying the opposite.
their evidence is erroneous and as i don't have time to point this out i thought i would let you all do it for me.. www.epages.wordpress.com.
If they aren't a cult, why can't a member just leave, be left alone, and still talk with their family and friends?
hey what's up everone?
i'm new to here.
it took a while for me to get this hard feelings out of my system....yup....i'm 18 and i'm on my last year of high school...this year i'm taking it online i don't mind it's ok..i do miss the people at school..as u know my parents r jw and i'm one too...i am very active and i do it all for my parents and to avoid confllict but recenlty i just don't like some of bans no what u can and can't do...i'm behind on school beacuse i reg pio...i'm a active person...i really want to leave this reglion beacuse one i can't visit my family grandparents and cousins in europe beacuse they "worldly"....this for me is bs...so stupid....it's my family... if i do leave the jw it's not like i'm going to do drugs and drink or smoke...my goals r to be in the olympics and to start snowboard cross...i'm going to join a snowboard club next season....i don't care anymore about what people think...it's not like i'm doing something bad..it's something that will bring me joy....today my mom was questioning me like crazy about my new jw friend that i ski with....there was a friend of a friend last year that i hang out once with he was a so called good exmaple but he quit the jw and started drinking and smoking so...yup he's dumb...now my mom is like questioning every i associate with..i hardly have any friends and my life sucks..i want to make it better by snowboard more...i'm allowed to go every secound day as long as i prepair for the crappy propangda meetings....ya...support is hard when my parents don't support my dreams but when i do get in the olympics u have only myself to thank beacuse every time i pratice i have bad snowboard days and good i feel like crying at the mountain my heart breaks i want to be faster and better...i want to be the best.. i told my mom i want to be the best snowboarder out there for snowboard cross and she was like humble yourself and all this jw crap...i just don't know how to put it into words.....it's like a backworkd train...i tried to a last attemt at this jw by trying to join a foriegn group...but it failed bad and that was like the straw that broke my back...years of holding my back of trainnign and being active is making me to go crazy ....it's hard i'm just trying to get my pain out when u fall on your snowborad u have to encorage your self u have to train your self u have to push yourself..i wish i could start life all over agian...the war in my country runid a large part and now this....when ur younger u don't know better and this relgion seems good but when u age and watch the olympics like i do and then watch it live...i got a job at the vanoc thing so i was there...it's a different experience to race ....my country did not do so well and i wish i could represent them and get a gold medal....u know it would make my life better....and bring hope to tons of people facing the same story as me....i was a jw from when i was 10 so i kindof miss chirstmas and holidays but i don't care anymore.....my dad came home talk latter.
Welcome! I sent you a PM, check the little envelope at the top of your screen. Good luck at your races!
where are you, brosephdanny?.
hope i didn't tick you off on the true christian thread last friday.
looks like you haven't posted since then.
Sent you a PM BrotherDan
i never could, like some others described, i could never ever see myself there, i just couldnt imagine it at all,.
i wonder if that was a sign that deep down i didnt believe it?.
No, I didn't think I was good enough to be there. My only hope was to walk through into the "New World" and hope that I wouldn't be killed after making it that far.
I also wasn't excited about it because most of my family or friends wouldn't be there, and I didn't want to live forever without them.
i don't know which is worse.... dubs that drop by unanounced and want to confront you on your inactivity and your apparent lack of zeal for truth and love of jehovah, thus setting up a potential argument that could get ugly real fast.
dubs that drop by unanounced and feign friendship, chatting away like old times, yet they've got a bible in their hand and they insist putting wt/awake mags in my hand before they leave (like i can't download it for free from the internet) and since they've been friendly enough it would be bad form to jump their shit and antagonize the situation.
knowing they're indoctrinated, i'm sure that they're actually trying to be sincere in their efforts.
I hate when they stop by unexpectedly and catch you by surprise. We had a "friendly visit" and received a copy of both magazines after the elder went back to the car to get them. Unfortunately we were in our driveway and waited for him to come back. I really wanted to ask him why he didn't bring our study copies of the Watchtower when we first started to miss meetings, and waited 8 months to drop off public editions we could just download instead.
I have a feeling it's going to be tricky doing yardwork out front in April with all those pioneers driving by.
I hope your partner will join you one day too undercover.
i'm getting my education degree this year and am working in a practicum placement in an elementary classroom (5th grade).
it's a very practical way to see first-hand how teachers teach, discipline and help mold their students.
one student is a jw.
What a beautiful idea! The other children learn about diversity, and the little girl gets to feel loved and special. I also felt really left out on Valentine's Day (who doesn't want to decorate a cool mailbox and deliver letters!?) When I was in Grade 3, one girl made me a special card that was in the shape of my initial and told me how special I was. I haven't forgot about it to this day. It helps JWs realize that "wordly" people aren't bad, and are loving.
okay, i know better than to ask this group that question.
critical thinking helps people to see propaganda as it is being presented and enables people to see through lies and other bs disguised as 'truth.'.
yet, my wife told me tonight that she did not want me to teach our child how to think.
No, it's not the teacher's reponsibility, it's the parents. Your wife is concerned about you teaching your children how to think critically of the Watchtower. "Independent thinking" is frowned upon...or mislabeled as "prideful."
