If it's true, I don't understand if it's that hot out why the heck would anyone stay? Although my parents stayed once...ahhh...can you believe it? One time when I was around 8 years old my family was at a outside convention somewhere in the bay area, California. I was sitting in direct sun but was holding umbrella (you could see across the statium all the colored umbrellas - that's all I remembered lol). This umbrella obviously did nothing for me because I told my mom I didn't feel well and I needed to put cold water on my face. We went to the women's restroom and while I was washing my face I fell over almost hitting my head on the bathroom floor. Yuck. I passed out because of the heat. My parents decided to stay at the convention but sit on the cement floor on blankets away from the sun. I remember a lot of people with kids also sitting on the floor with us. I also remember my father carrying me and my long legs were dangling around him. lol. I don't understand why parents would stay! I don't understand why mine stayed. I don't have kids and I would have left if it was that hot. Nothing worse than wearing nylons and a dress on a hot sticky day. It would make me grouchy. I bet all the guys out there that was stuck wearing shirts with ties would agree...
1Robinella
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Baby(ies) Died From Heat At Convention?
by snowbird ini recall reading from one source how babies were overcome by the heat at a jw convention, with at least one death.. if i'm not mistaken, this was in houston, texas, at the astrodome.. the story goes that doctors at the convention wanted an advisory about the heat read from the platform, but convention officials refused, stating that only wt related material was to be read.. it was stated that the doctors became so upset at this that they quit the wt on the spot!.
has anyone else heard or read that story?.
syl.
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Why do I come here
by Luo bou to ini believe i have completely freed myself from any borg influence yet i am drawn to this board.
like many of you ,i lost my wife and family, but i don't believe i can do anything about that, and if i could, i doubt that it would be a kindness on my part to do so.
they have so much invested.
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1Robinella
Hello Luo bou to
Yup we all have been through it all. I was born and raised a JW and pressured to get baptized at 13 years old. Although I do not blame them, I blame myself for being so absent minded and dingy for not having a mind of my own. 13 is seriously young to make any life altering decisions especially about religion. But as we all know, the pressure is on the youth to commit. Yikes! JW was all that I knew. I had no friends outside the religion (it's frown upon), my whole life was committed to service, studying, commenting at meetings, getting to the meetings early to socialize, demonstrations at the KH and assemblys, pioneering, carpooling around town and visiting those "in need." Yikes, I was busy. We all know the drill. What I am trying to say is that because of all that we have done and been through we definately have a sense of friendship here. At least that's how I feel. Now that I live in a new town, I do not know anyone and had feelings of being lonely this site has helped me to know others are out there too. Although I am not weak, no way going back, it's nice to know people like the people on this site.
Be strong my friend.
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"Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers"
by EndofMysteries in2 cor 6:14 .
always been given that scripture about marrying someone who is not a jw or same belief.
while that may be true, i just realized when reading vs 14-17 that was talking about the congregation.
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I dunno. JW's always confused me while growing up. I just know that I have some of the greatest friends now then I did in that religion. Infact, the guy I'm married to now (a non-believer like me. lol) is open minded about other religions, doesn't care if someone is gay or straight, doesn't judge anyone because of race or beliefs. The JW's I knew, would have a cow if someone was friends or married outside the religion. For me and my household, we believe in the bible and not man made religions cults.
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Question about an elder visit at home...
by paranoid inlast meeting my father was asked what a good day/time would be for the whole family to be present at home by one of the elders.
i haven't exactly been behaving within jw 'standards' so i'm a bit paranoid (sn ;]) a friend suggested it's probably just the visits they do (forget the name in eng.
) and as our co visit is in about 2 weeks it makes sense.... could they possibly be coming to confront me about my actions though?
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1Robinella
Growing up, I remember the elders coming over before the CO visit. It's really to get all their paperwork in order (so-to-speak). It's because if the CO asks the elders if they "Do any shepparding calls and how long ago?"...the elders can truthfully say "Yes, infact last week we called on____." I'd suggest if your worried, don't be. If it was me, I'd just make sure I wasn't home. Lol. Shut your cell phone off and go hang out with a buddy. Order pizza and watch a movie. Tell your buddy and have a laugh about it. If asked about it from your family or the elders, say: "Oh wow! I totally forgot and my cell died." Unless your into this JW thing. If so, wait for them to counsel the family on who knows what.
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Jehovah - The Hearer of Prayer?
by Had To Go inhey!
i made my intro post this past weekend and briefly mentioned my dilemma.
here is a link in case you are interested or need to refresh your memory.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/199811/1/introduction-warning-its-complicated.
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1Robinella
Wow! How does anyone really know anything anyway? The world/universe is so masive, that us simple minded humans still do not understand or do not know that specifics of life, god etc. anyway. I believe you should continue to pray with your children and tell your children to remember to be respectful and have humility when speaking to the lord or father. As far as your husband, I'd tell him that "I want our children to be well rounded and when they are adults they can make there own decision regarding religion and who/what to pray to."
I believe pressure from your husband may influnce heavily on your children and it sounds like you need to educate your family about ALL religion.
-peace and respect
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I don't believe my boyfriend is 100% committed to this religion. How to handle?
by herlovelyworld inhi guys!
im very new here and i need a little help.. im not a witness, but i know all of the quirks and rules and whatnot because my long-distance boyfriend is a witness.
the issue, other than the obvious, is that i fell in love with him before he told me he was one of jehovahs witnesses.
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Yes this young guy sounds deeply confused. Both of you are young and have a lot of life to live. Unfortunately, this religion tends to "keep people down" and "small minded" I have known a lot of stories like this (not me personally). Over the years, I've probably known around ten or so similar cases (give or take). Some were high school guys I've known that had a "worldly" girlfriend (I've always hated that term "worldly"). A couple of the guys got the girl pregnant and that's how they get there "secret" exposed, so to speak. This is a tricky thing too. Although your boyfriend probably really does care a lot for you and wants to marry you, I'm sure he really means that because witnesses young adults tend to take dating seriously which leads to marriage. But I am hoping that you have already met his family...? I assume you haven't. If it was me, I would show him this website because it will let him know that he is not alone and that a lot of people left the religion successfully. Of course, he has to realize that he will get a lot of pressure from his parents and the organization, but it does fade over time. This young guy does not sound strong. He's definately playing both sides. The best thing for him to do is to move out and rent what he can afford (even if it's renting a bedroom from someone - outside the cult).
To me, and this is what I did. I changed my phone number and moved. He doesn't have to go talk to the elders about what he did. I would walk away quietly as possible. (Although every so often my mother sends the elders to my home - I just don't talk to them, I look out the window. lol.) If he DOES speak to them about EVERYTHING...he's only causing more problems and a possible disfellowshiping. Which means, he's shuned and his own parents/family won't even talk to him. Over time, he will see he made the right decision and laugh about how "controlled" he was. It's kind of sad that he put you in this situation, if he's a man, he will own up to it and do a little self discovery. Whatever his decision will be, it would be his decision (not something that you pressured him to do). I can't believe that he "feels" that he owes people anything! Yes, it was nice that people in the organization supported the family when his brother passed away but he doesn't owe anything to them. That right there, tells me it's time for him to move on and get a quick construction job and move out. I really feel bad for him and you and hope that everything will work out well for both of you.
For me, I love celebrating the holidays. It's so much fun..especially halloween. I'm 38 years old and I get dressed up every year. lol. I never had any holidays growing up. Hang in there.
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leaving 'apostate' stuff around on the PC for the kids to see???
by Aussie Oz inmy kids come to visit each second weekend.. if they look at my files they could easy find my massive file on jw's (and i hope they have).
i have recently thought of leaving as a screensaver during the visits something like an old wt cover (say, the 1914 one) or a big ''jwfacts.com" accross it.
or perhaps some wt quote to get them thinking...or asking questions.
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I say good for you I'd leave the information on the kitchen counter with other stuff like some mail or the newspaper but make sure it's on top of everything. This way, if your cooking a meal and your kids help they will definately see it. If they ask you about it, be honest about it. If they stay the night, they may decide to check out what you left but probably won't advertise it (prolly once you went to bed). Your giving them "food for thought."lol
For me, I have stayed the night at my parents home before and my mother has left personal items out, but I couldn't look at it even though I was kinda tempted. lol
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"There's really no good reason why we should turn our time in late"
by Crisis of Conscience inanother wonderful part this week at the meeting.
and this is what the brother said.. he related examples, based on the om book, as to how jehovah kept records.
funny part is, they all applied to population, the amount of people.. is there any part of the bible that talks about how jehovah kept a log of hours on some occasion?
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I used to make up hours for the field service. lol. This was when I was figuring out what I was going to do. lol
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so were do I go now that ive left the kingdom hall?
by arimatthewdavies inmany people for one reason or other have quit going to the kingdom hall me included!
i dont object to the people for they are clean well dressed human beings, i object to the way a prefabricated doctorine is distributed, useing hugh amounts of books magazines and media to attempt to study the bible,i feel obligated to say i agree with that method and under pressure to promote it, theirfore i stoped going because pretending to agree with this method and rendering lip service to it in order to keep from being disfellowshiped is a lie,and liers go to the lake of fire, .
so now that we have left the hall were do we go?
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Are you seeking another religion so quickly after leaving the kingdom hall? If your asking I say take a nice two or three week vacation (if $$ permits) this is to just get your head clear. For me, I took up hobbies and did a lot of inner self evaluation to see how I feel and what direction feels good for me. I painted and started rollerblading. I got in mental and physical shape. I got a dog and taught her tricks. I started seeing how I was opening up and feeling more comfortable in my own skin instead of feeling like "I better study for the meeting tonight." For me, all the meetings, studying, biblestudies, commenting, demonstrations...etc got to be too much. Especially when my field service hours fell short for a month and was in trouble by the elders. (I used to do 60 hours a month). Yikes. They were upset I did only 40. Yikes. I remember that like it was yesterday.
Don't make rash decisions and jump into anything. Take it slow and just enjoy the sunset.
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I'm a Neutral Jehovah's Witness
by Martini indear brothers and sisters,.
i martini, will confide in you that i have become a neutral jehovah's witness.
i wonder if i'm not coining a new phrase here!.
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1Robinella
To me, being neutral as a JW means your kind of already stepping aside. Nothing wrong with that my friend. I believe religion is a personal decision and not a decision our family/friends can make you/us feel guilty for. This took me a long time to figure out because of all the guilt that was passed my way. If this religion is working great for you then more power to you. But it sounds as if your "not feeling" it, then walk away. Again, religion is a personal choice.
For me I was born and raised by a strict JW mother and a father that was baptized but my father and I kept an open mind to the concept...god is great and god is love, if family and friends treat you differently because you have personal differences or different beliefs then "something is wrong with them." For me, once I realized this religion was not for me. My "so-called" JW friends pretended I did not exist and I was doomed "bad association." Even my mother treated me "worldly" and called me a "disappointment." With their negative attitude change towards me it just encouraged me that this is definately NOT the religion for me. You call that love? Admittaly, at times it made me sad because I wasn't the one that changed, I just opened my eyes to the real world. I can honestly say "I am happier now than ever." I hope you found these words of encouragment and more power to you and whatever god you choose in your life.
Peace