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  Rec'd a letter from my Dad - need some advice...

  by Fadeaway3pointer in

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  fader here - last meeting was in autumn 2005. lurker on this site and others.

  not one to get all controversial.. typical situation, pretty much a born in and left the church at age 38 and never looked back.. i'm 53 now, parents getting older - late 70s but very active, dad is still an elder.. parents, in laws, brother and brother-in-law still uber active jws.. my family (wife and 2 adult children) out since 2005.. we have stayed close to our parents - we have treaded religion lightly and have had a pretty good relationship and have kept our personal lives and beliefs/opinions separated from them.

  this was intentional - as we love them and do not want anything to cause shunning since they are getting older and want to be there for them and we respect their beliefs.. got this letter today.

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  Giordano

  Yes it hurts....but your dad and mom.... are longing for everlasting life. That belief is more important then you.

  You are not part of that deal. You can't be on a paradise earth with them and not believe in the Corporation..... the WTBTS.

  In truth they don't believe in a religion....just a made up corporation that thought becoming an official religion would save them taxes.

  It could have been Amway which would have been a more sane choice..... unfortunately it was the JW's.......no real difference between them they each sold a product door to door. But on family matters one remained part of their family and the other was shunned.
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  I can just imagine the hype that is going on in Australia about how close armageddon is now with all of these bushfires occurring.

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it brings to mind my niece when she see`s how dry the countryside is ,how armageddon must be so close..

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  Giordano

  smiddy3.... No it has nothing to do with Brush fires it has everything to do with JW pedophiles. When they get on board.... belief wise... they can start to see what the end looks like for them. A disgusting religion.
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  Is it possible to nullify a baptism?

  by idk123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hope you are all well,.

  i was wondering within the organisation if there are any guidelines or grounds for nullifying a baptism.

  see i grew up a jehovah's witness and was baptised at age 13, i didn't get baptised for the right reasons, i felt pressured to because my friends were getting baptised at the same time.

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  Giordano

  There are any number of great opinions on this forum but we also know you have a hole in your universe.... family wise.

  The simplest way to restore your life with your family is to make a good faith effort to be reinstated. Then a slow fade, school and or a job.

  While you endure that for the sake of your parents remember what this effort will cost you. And there is no safeguard that their natural love for you....... which is conditional on your obedience to the Society........ will be restored.

  You may be able to remain at home until you are 18. Then it's good by.

  So your choice is to go it alone or submit to the religion.

  As has been mentioned: There is no respect for this religion it's one of the worst religions out there.

  JWs suffer and die every day worldwide because of their ban on a life saving blood transfusion. Which no other religion agrees with. Even the most orthodox Conservative militant Jew.

  Believe it or not you have made some friends on this forum...many of us will be interested in what you decide. No one will be disappointed as we have all faced what you have been facing.

  
  
  
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  Prayers for special servants

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my very much in wife commented with no prompting that they have a hierarchy in prayers.

  bless the gb, co, elders, pioneers.

  if the ill or shutins are mentioned that is all, not so much as a phone call let alone a visit.

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  Giordano

  The whole idea about being a JW is where you rank. Nothing else matters.

  There has been, from Russell's day forward, a level for who is who. The role one plays is important in the pecking order. But believe it or not....not here!

  We often follow suit by sharing how many circuit roles we have played, talks given, who we know at Bethel, the years spent pioneering etc. The reality is what we lost being an active JW . Once again that just draws attention to how dumb we were.

  The higher you rose the dumber you were.

  Does anyone on the GB even pretend to be smart? Maybe the guy who was searching for the best price on a dozen bottles of scotch?

  How about those idiots who are the hand maidens to the GB? The helpers? All men of course. Everyone of which warn of a troubled future.
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  Another jw convicted of child sex abuse.

  by lancelink in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  for the past year, the trial for this jw has been going on.

  he was sentenced on 12/19 .. http://mchenrycountyblog.com/2019/10/23/13-years-of-sexual-abuse-results-in-37-year-sentence/.

  i have been following the comments on fb regarding the aftereffects of this case, and there have been quite a lot of incendiary statements about what a scum he is.. one lady posted the following comments about how the witnesses deal with abusers is quite hilarious :.

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  Anybody that has passed up revealing a child sexual abuse crime....... especially an Elder...... needs to be locked up.

  "Only the criminal can make a confession. Therefore, the Elders would not have been breaking any law."

  Nonsense if the child's underwear had blood stains....... I'd say that was proof of an assult.

  We know Elder's had ample notice of a child sexual abuse issue but decided not to rock the boat.

  Giving them a pass violates what Jesus said....

  Matthew 19:14 NIV -

  https://www.biblegateway.com › passage › search=Matthew+19:14

  Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”

  
  

  Do you think that child sexual abuse might hinder a child?
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  Russell's followers in British Columbia?

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was interviewing a guy for a podcast episode today and he went and saw his grandmother over christmas to gather some history.

  he wasn't raised a jw but it turns out his family was actually opposed to the jws because they went all the way back to russell.

  according to him (from her stories), they refused to follow rutherford and that's where the split took place.

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  Giordano

  For those who are interested:

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Development_of_Bible_Students_en.svg

  
  

  

  
  
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  Self Driving Vehicles

  by TD in

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  2. current

  i was so stoked about the whole idea a few years ago, but am having serious misgivings at this point.. what are your experiences / impressions / opinions?.

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  Giordano

  I think it's a splendid Idea............If your a drunk. Get the car started.......... punch in your address............. crawl in the back and pass out.
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  Has Anything Really Changed For JWs In The Last 10 Years?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  2020 is days away.

  has anything really changed for the witnesses or the religion?

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  Giordano

  What has changed is the use of the internet. Once Satan's internet........ is now the life line that the Society uses. However the problem is that the entire internet can now be accessed by any inquiring person even those that attend a meeting and see the truth for what it is.

  This is true of all religions and the end result is the fastest growth is now coming from the 'Nons'........... people who don't recognize any truth in beliefs that can't be proved.
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  "Do You think that 8 million are being deceived?" Ways to answer this?

  by BottleGate_ in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mine is : jws preach that the entire population of the earth has been deceived ..

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  Giordano

  All religions are deceptive.......... it's in their very nature.

  Since god doesn't communicate........ everything that is about god is a bad translation of that silence.
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  Police and Fire Department Officials in Guatemala Benefit From Bible-Based Workshops

  by TheFadingAlbatros in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/guatemala/police-and-fire-department-officials-in-guatemala-benefit-from-bible-based-workshops/.

  i am surprised that a government authority is calling on a religious organization to give their police and fire department officials instructions to behave in a better way with the guatemalan population.

  the organization of jehovah's witnesses is well known to separate families (shunning) and have in the past protected numerous pedophiles within their organization ( maybe they are still doing it now somewhere in secret, who knows ?

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  Let's hope they are not encouraging the 'two witness rule' before the authorities are allowed to do their job.