The WTBTS does have one major accomplishment........ the art of painting their beliefs into a corner.......... then having to sit there waiting for the paint to dry.
Sorry WTBTS your foot prints spoil the finish every time.
Giordano
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May 2020 Watchtower They Admit, they don't know
by Listener inthey'll write pages and pages of stuff and yet they don't have any idea.. here's a paragraph from their latest speculations on future events, bolding is mine.. a prophecy recorded by ezekiel gives some insight into what may happen during the last days of the king of the north and the king of the south.
if we view the prophecies of ezekiel 38:10-23; daniel 2:43-45; 11:44–12:1; and revelation 16:13-16, 21 as speaking about the same time period and events, it appears that we can expect the following developments.. that's an awful lot of assumptions to make.
what they've done is picked out various scriptures from different parts of the bible and now state that they may or may not be talking about the same events.
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Circuit Overseer to Answer My Questions + Concerns...or Not
by Research inhello all, i'm 'researching', a jw who is in the first steps of taking a look at their beliefs.. i've semi-recently (about a couple weeks ago) heard about the sexual abuse cases (pennsylvania attorney general’s investigation request) and then the arc in 2015. this lead to a deep investigation, which lead to many questions arising.
a jw friend of mine suggested i be careful (due to apostates) and ask the brothers.
so i typed up my questions + concerns and emailed an elder my mother has known for a long time.
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Giordano
Establish a base reason for your concerns and questions and by the way stop asking questions .....JW's don't like questions. What they like is obedience over faith.
Your best protection is the ARC's findings into the JW religion and the WTBTS confrontational mindset.
Essentially the Society was a publishing and real estate holding corp. Decades later it established itself as a religion in 1931 or there about. The only thing that changed was the tax break they have enjoyed to this day.
The ARC has revealed that the Australian JW Branch had information on some 1006 cases of child sexual abuse dating from 1950 until this day. Of those cases there were over 1800 plus victims of sexual abuse......... a pedophile doesn't stop with one victim. ......... AND........... not a single case was reported to the police!
Jesus actually was very specific about children. He said "do not hinder the children from coming to me."
I would think child sexual abuse was a crime first and a sin secondly. The JW's land firmly on it being a sin that can be handled by their idiot Elders....... in house.
If you get 'blow back' from your congregation, the Elders, the Circuit overseer...... simply stake out a position that you have been stumbled by the child sexual abuse the ARC showed that was actually happening in the congregations.
If you are threatened just remind them that you know for a fact that the JW congregations have protected child abusers and you are prepared to write a letter to your local newspaper revealing the ARC information.
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Looking for host family
by Catlover inmy parents are jw and i'm study.. i'm about to find a host family in europe and experience to live with there as an aupair.
if i have a chance to find a jw host family it's will be great and helped me to grow more knowledge and be a jw soon.. if you've know someone a sister/brother need a helper or a nanny or a caregiver.
just help me to stay and live with you as a family.. i wish i have a chance to find a opportunity here..
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Giordano
Catlover you successfully trolled us!
And I'll bet that a number of us got a laugh hearing you were out.
Perhaps your search for living and housing should focus on a different career choice.
Gio
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I found an old pamphlet in one of my JW books. About the Hoxsey cure
by JimmyYoung ini found a pamphlet in one of my old bound vol.
a 1969 awake, that had a pamphlet from a senator who gave a speech on the hoxsey cure.
i know of several jws who went to mexico and got this treatment.
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Giordano
JW's were under educated.... still are....... and obedient to the failed 'medical advice', of the Society. Let's call it what it was and still is....... Quackery.
So what followed were JW's treating their cancer with coffee enema's, grape therapy etc. and/or heading down to Mexico to be treated with the latest Mexican quackery and then returning home to die.
The ban on blood exposes them to any number of situations like cancer and traumatic injury.
Belief in the 'truth' often makes them the first to die when proper medical treatment is denied.
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Looking for host family
by Catlover inmy parents are jw and i'm study.. i'm about to find a host family in europe and experience to live with there as an aupair.
if i have a chance to find a jw host family it's will be great and helped me to grow more knowledge and be a jw soon.. if you've know someone a sister/brother need a helper or a nanny or a caregiver.
just help me to stay and live with you as a family.. i wish i have a chance to find a opportunity here..
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Giordano
Hi Catlover,
You have landed on an ex JW web site that pertains to this religion. It would be better if you reexamined the beliefs and Organization of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society before committing yourself to it's authority.
As an Aupair I am sure you would not want to associate with child sexual abusers. Google Jehovah's Witnesses Pedophile problem and find out for your self.
jwfacts.com is an excellent place to check out as they only quote from the Watchtower's words.
The 'friends' will deny there is a problem. But the broken lives and law suits tell a different story.
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Death of NASA Legend Aged 101
by cofty inkatherine johnson passed away today aged 101. she was the subject of the excellent movie hidden figures that told the story of her amazing work as a mathematician calculating trajectories for space flights.. 'ms.
johnson helped our nation enlarge the frontiers of space even as she made huge strides that also opened doors for women and people of color in the universal human quest to explore space.
' - nasa .
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Giordano
I fell into this movie. Wasn't looking for it but it found me.
Here's an excellent preview that will show you:
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Why Did Obama win the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009?
by JW_Researcher inwhile even non-peaceful people have been awarded the peace prize (e.g.
arafat, kissinger), i am confused as to how obama could possibly have won the award one year after being the first term junior senator from illinois with zero “peace” experience (other than his ‘well-articulated’ rhetoric)..
reading the obama-pining on a couple of posts made me reexamine my view of barry’s presidency..
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Giordano
He will be remembered as the President who backed the truck out of the ditch and got America going again.
Trump hates Obama like he hates anyone else who disagrees with him or mocks him. He's a worthless President.
Simon.......As America weakens so does Canada.
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Ex JW of 30 years , still messed up from it
by Doubledecker inhi , this is my first post .. i left jws 30 years ago as 18 year old unbaptised youth and after the initial fallout from leaving pretty much put the whole thing in a box and buried it .. however , i am now starting to realise how much the doomsday messages and the ‘them and us’ doctrines that’s fed to you from birth has remained in my core beliefs.. how have others managed to reprogram themselves ?.
thanks for reading , have a good day .
dd.
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Giordano
Doubledecker would you want to live in a paradise earth that was built over the bones of billions of innocent people?
Do you still carry that JW approved suicide note........ called the No Blood Card in your wallet?
JWfacts.com can be a powerful tool to start to learn how corrupt the WTBTS is.
Good luck with working through this.
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My husband and I told our families we want to disassociate
by erinee inwell, these stories are always fun, right?
let me share mine.. my husband and have been pimo for 2 years.
inactive for one year.
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Giordano
The arguments on this forum center around leaving/fading or officially Disassociating to stop any contact from the Elders, Circuit Servant etc.
Unfortunately when your name is called out as in 'S0 and S0 is no longer one of Jehovah's Witness'. You will pay the same price and be lumped in with ex JW sinners.
Simply leaving is your right. Freedom of Religion could not exist without Freedom From Religion.
In fact over 60% of born-ins leave and no longer consider themselves or identify with the JW's according to the Pew religious survey.
Also the JW's have as many divorces (11%) as most every Christian religion according to Pew.
My wife and I faded away back in the mid 1960's. This was a time when you could make it known that you were leaving. DF didn't start until 1981. To be perfectly honest the on going arguments spoiled any feeling of family closeness. To be on our own strengthened our marriage.
Maybe take some time off and put some distance between the congregation and family members....before you decide. Until then you can simply say "we are praying to Jehovah about certain issues that have stumbled us.....thank you for your concern"
Or you can say that returning is always a possibility but not until the Society cleans up it's pedophile problem.
Jesus said to his followers "do not hinder the little children from coming to me" I would think child sexual abuse would be considered as a crime against the little children and one hell of a hindrance.
Keep in touch.........we know the issues of leaving because we have all chosen a path away from the JW construct.
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My kids are watching Atheist Content on Youtube!
by Miriam ini was looking at my children's watch history on youtube when i saw that they were watching atheist content!!!
what should i do?
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Giordano
Miriam I get the feeling you kind of stumbled in here only to learn that obviously....... we are for the most part....... ex Jw's. Or at the least people who are still in..... because of family.
The information in answer to your concerns has been reasonable. Your concern leaves us with no understanding of who and what your children are or who and what kind of parent you are.
What we have to offer on this forum are parents, adults who have a found a way to leave the JW world with some dignity. There are a lot of issues re the WTBTS in many respects that demonstrate that they are more dangerous then Jonestown where 'only' 1,000 plus people committed suicide in one night.
Based on medical records at least 1000 JW's each year since 1940 (73,000 thousand to date) have accepted the ban on blood doctrine and died before their time...... or suffered beyond reason. This is based on the start of the ban in 1940.
My wife and I have lost two uber JW's in our families to a death that they need not have experienced ....not as young as they were.
At the very least remove the suicide cards you carry in your purse or wallet that cover you or your children with a ban on blood. Your not pleasing Jehovah. By the way His name was made up in the Catholic Church by a Monk . The WT Society has admitted to this.
You need to understand this ban on blood was a made up doctrine to set the JW's apart. They didn't need to be set apart with a dangerous belief....... they needed to be kept safe.
Your children are more important then the entire governing body and professional bethelites who haven't accomplished anything more important then your children have.
Their reading other things ....thank god for the internet.
Until the internet the Mormons never knew that their hound dog .....Joseph Smith..........had 30 wives.
Guess what you can discover for yourself if you......... like your children...... do your own research.
How do you feel about pedophiles? There are 23,000 who attend the different JW kingdom halls in the USA and who are on record with the WTBTS as pedophiles.
Jesus said "do not hinder the young children from coming to me". That's all you need to know.
The bull shit the Society supports is all you need to disregard. Jesus is the lost sole of the WTBTS. Being pro Jehovah when we were supposed to be Jesus's witnesses is part of their calculation.