Posts by Listener

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

Listener

It is quite likely that they are wanting more GB members but are having problems finding long serving members that are anointed, they need to plant some seeds like this idea in order for some to meet the criteria.

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New light Watchtower magazine leaked from organization weeks ahead of general release

by cedars in

http://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release.

if doctrinal explanations are missing from the article, it is because they are also missing from the magazine.. i would like to give my thanks again to my source for supplying me with the magazine article weeks ahead of its scheduled release.

it showed remarkable courage, because risks were taken.

Listener

They have failed in advising where they get their authority to Govern. The FDS is only appointed to provide spiritual food, nothing else as they are no longer believed to be appointed over all Christs' belongings, this previously gave them more authority than restricting their role as providing the spiritual food.

It is the WTBTS that fill the role of providing spiritual food, the GB only supervise that and direct the teachings to their own beliefs.

The funny thing about this new teaching is that they are saying the previous persons who believed they were part of the FDS were all wrong. They have chosen for themselves to change this and are going against what the old FDS taught.

Thanks Cedars for all your work and also making yourself available for other concerned people to approach you.

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Irritated with my sister in law who is trying to claim my baby girls clothes

by Butterflyleia85 in

irritated with my sister in law.

ok so i'm really happy and excited about having my baby girl january 31st!

the same week i learned my sister in law is having a baby due in october but will be having it delivered september.

Listener

Butterfly I know it's hard but as my mother used to say 'put your foot down'. Unfortunately she sounds like the sort of person that will 'use you' if you let her and because she is going to be around for a long time it is better for you to voice your feelings now so that she is clear as to where she stands.

If she mentions the clothes again then tell her not to expect too much as there will only be a few things you can give her. If she is persistant and asks why is that, then tell her you want to keep most of it.

When she borrows things from you make a real fuss about it, if it holds some meaning to you then let her know. Kingly remind her that she has something of yours and that you were hoping to get it back. If you make a fuss she is going to stop borrowing stuff as it will be too bothersome for her, you're basically beating her at her own game.

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First mention of "new light" may appear in July 15, 2013 Watchtower

by cedars in

a trusted source informs me that the "new light" about the faithful slave is to make its first printed appearance in the july 15th watchtower, which should be available for download online three weeks from now, on around april 15th.. i'm led to believe that the references to the new understanding are made in such a manner as to suggest the "new light" isn't that new at all, which suggests to me that little or no effort is being made to explain the doctrinal connotations.

my source and i are hoping to get a key paragraph posted at the earliest opportunity.

watch this space!.

Listener

Interesting leaving quietly. Here is a church that is changing it's very foundation that it built itself on.

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Disfellowshipping Changes

by UnDisfellowshipped in

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paraphrase of the watchtower 1955, page 607:.

quote from the watchtower august 1st 1974 issue, page 465:.

quote from the watchtower august 1st 1980 issue, page 19:.

Listener

Those quotes show how the GB really do insight hatred.

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First mention of "new light" may appear in July 15, 2013 Watchtower

by cedars in

a trusted source informs me that the "new light" about the faithful slave is to make its first printed appearance in the july 15th watchtower, which should be available for download online three weeks from now, on around april 15th.. i'm led to believe that the references to the new understanding are made in such a manner as to suggest the "new light" isn't that new at all, which suggests to me that little or no effort is being made to explain the doctrinal connotations.

my source and i are hoping to get a key paragraph posted at the earliest opportunity.

watch this space!.

Listener

I'll be interested to know if they explain the significance of the Domestics now including the OS and whether they have mentioned Spiritual Israel.

Also, they have changed the timing of Jesus' second coming to appoint the FDS over all Christ's belongings and this is significant. They really screw themselves with the idea that the promise of the FDS being appointed over all his belongings is not inclusive of just them. This is pretty much on par with their logic regarding the meaning of generation.

They didn't discuss the wicked slave at the general meeting and this adds a greater meaning to the whole parable and how it should be considered.

Cedars, could you thank the guy who has given you the article ahead of time and thank you for your hard work.

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Only few words, but many lies.!

by MacHislopp in

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*** w71 12/15 755 a governing body as different from a legal corporation ***

*** w71 12/15 757 a governing body as different from a legal corporation ***

*** w71 12/15 760 a governing body as different from a legal corporation ***

Listener

I've just been looking at some of MacHislopp's posts because he did quite a bit of research through WTBTS publications which are interesting to read.

I'm marking this one because of the FDS changes. It is no wonder the GB have not published any more in depth information about their new idea, there are so many issues that need to be clarified and this thread just adds more.

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Shunning a myth says jw spokesman

by doofdaddy in

http://www.theage.com.au/national/jehovahs-witnesses-a-cruel-cult-20130315-2g5x3.htmlit's hotting up in australia regarding cults, especially tax free like jws but how is the response of vin toole (the australian wts legal mouth piece) regarding shunning!.

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Listener

Typical talk from a JW

To quote from the article

"A spokesman for the church in Australia, Sydney solicitor Vincent Toole, dismissed the allegations and said shunning was a"myth."

Myth's can also be true but there are hundreds of cases documented demonstrating it is more than a myth.