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  2013 Sept WT out

  by Gayle in

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  2. bible

  could only just quickly scan it.

  still trying to 'duck' out of 1914.. in a similar way, at the beginning.

  of the 20th century, there were a number.

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  11 In addition to helping us stay awake spiritually, the directions that we have received help us with matters of everyday life. Examples include maintaining a balanced view of material things and keeping a simple eye in order to reduce anxiety. We have also benefited from guidance regarding our dress and grooming, choosing wholesome entertainment, and deciding on the appropriate amount of education. And think of the safety reminderswe have received as to our homes, automobiles, Kingdom Halls, and preparing for possible emergencies. Such counsel shows that God cares about our well-being.

  All authority belongs to the GB and all directions that they issue demonstrate God's care. Not only do their directions go beyond what is written in the bible but many times is has caused heartache and difficulties. They are very bold men to make the declaration that it is God showing his care.
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  Awkward moment at the WT study today

  by FadeToBlack in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when we got to paragraphs 10,11 with the reference to the box at the top of the page - is your teaching up-to-date?

  the conductor asked for an explanation of what the current 'bible truth' was.

  for the first one, 'this generation (matt 24:34) absolutely nobody raised their hand!

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  I don't think there is anything in the July Watchtower about the generation but they have moved about eight mentions of Jesus' presence (Matt 24 and 25) from having occurred in 1914 to the future. It will be interesting to see if they move the countdown of the generation to beginning in a future period as well.
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  My Letter to Brooklyn about the Parousia that got me disfellowshipped

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the letter i wrote back in '96 about the parousia.

  following the '95 watchtower that disconnected the "generation" from 1914 i began to look carefully at end-time prophecy and soon discovered what i knew were basic errors in what i had been taught.. i was a loyal jw at the time and was still serving as an elder.

  i used only watchtower publications in my research.

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  Marking.

  How they deal with those that present the truth to them in a logical and humble manner speaks volumes and shows they are not sincere in their efforts to understand the bible better.
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  600 people up and left the DC after the 'apostate' talk?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  2. friends

  an 'apostate' inactive jw in america i know on facebook went to the dc and said fully 600 people left between the end of the apostate talk and the lunch break.

  have any of you who also went to the dc seen something like this happen?

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  You make an interesting point Jam. I've talked about disfellowshipping when JWs have come around in their house to house work. They believe that in recent years the GB has softened and doesn't take the hard stand it once did. I couldn't believe it when I heard them say this because it is not what we read in the magazines.

  I can only think that it is the older elders that have softened and this is not what the GB want. The idea has been confirmed by some of the recent elders meetings that have been mentioned on here. They have brought out the whip and basically told the elders to be tougher.

  So when you get a conflicting message at an assembly, it is going to have some JWs appalled at the position they are supposed to take.
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  new light = redefining meanings while retaining concepts and JW language

  by wallsofjericho in

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  2. beliefs

  i thought of this during another thread.. major changes in the doctrine by dropping old ideas would seem too obvious.

  as in the past the wts just "redefines" all the old terms.

  the old - "taking from one shoulder and moving it to the other shoulder" trick.

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  They've built themselves on a shaky foundation which is not solid. Instead of fixing it they redecorate the house, hoping averyone will be blindsited by their appearance.
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  Prodigal Son DVD, Seen it? Totally Unrealistic to me. You?

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here's the basic rundown:.

  ok so little jw (21 going on 15) decides to get a job with a computer firm.

  leaves family construction company to do so.

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  Ah yes, that old saying 'I told you so'. I ws also told that it was in very bad manners to make a point of this and it served no one any benefit other than making yourself look puffed up.
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  Anthony Morris The 3rd Talks About Human Hot Dogs At Armageddon, There Will Be No Picnic For Survivors

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  watch out for armageddon it is going to be numbing to human sensibilities:.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=micq4iqrklm.

  i guess he's thinkin jehovah's gonna roast them like a hot dogs burned to a charred ruination over a fire.

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  Here's some spiritual food being served at an appropriate time. From their August 2013 Awake this comment is made

  UNITED STATES

  Each day, more than 20 former members of the United States’ armed forces commit suicide. Every month, some 950 veterans who are receiving care from the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs attempt suicide.

  That is how traumatizing war is, eyewitnesses at Armageddon are going to have to toughen up.
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  My brother says: Don't worry about 2052, we will be in paradise by then...

  by Joliette in

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  2. friends

  i was talking to my brother about a video that i saw about african genocide, and in the video this doctor that i listened to was saying based on his research he predicts that africans in different regions of africa will be scaled back by about 50% by the year 2052 (due to aids, food storages, etc).

  my brother gave me a drive home from work and we were talking about this.

  he said that we wont have to worry about that cause 2052 is never going to happen.

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  You spotted that well Breakfast of Champions.
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  Moral dilemma: to tell my husband or not to tell him...

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  that his jw best friend he hasn't seen in ages is coming for holidays from where he now lives overseas.

  this jw friend was instrumental in getting my husband into the cult before we met.

  i heard from a jw from my old cong who just emailed me.

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  You know Julia, men can be really simple people in some aspects. While you may think that he may not be sharing his thoughts with you, it may well be because he actually has no thoughts on the matter. But the more you share with your husband and encourage him to share his thoughts, he is likely to become more open.

  A couple of years after I was with my husband, he wanted to move back to his home state of Western Australia, he has a large family here. I was used to having my husband basically all to myself and was a bit worried about him returning to a full on social life when we returned to his home town but to my surprise he only maintained a close relationship with his family and one mate. He was content with our relationship and wasn't interested in living his previous life. Maybe it is the same with your husband, he's now so content with you and being settled into married life that everything else becomes secondary to him.

  If you want to bring up the subject again with him, you could put it this way - What should we do if he wants to visit us? It is such a broad general question and it instantly brings you into the equation.
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  Moral dilemma: to tell my husband or not to tell him...

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  that his jw best friend he hasn't seen in ages is coming for holidays from where he now lives overseas.

  this jw friend was instrumental in getting my husband into the cult before we met.

  i heard from a jw from my old cong who just emailed me.

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  It's working out well Julia and I'm glad for you that you have a husband with 'a strong moral compass and desire to do right'. Worth waiting for ;).