Once they started calling themselves Jehovah's Witnesses their focus had to be on Jehovah, not Jesus.
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why does the Wt hate Jesus so much?
by Crazyguy ineven in the anniversary year were they claim jesus being enthroned for a hundred years they talk and say jehovah is king, its still all about jehovah, i don't get it?.
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A glaring example of how Watchtower's insertion of "Jehovah" corrupts the NT
by Island Man in"the rnwt replaces "kyrios" (lord) with "jehovah" in translating romans 14:8 as follows:.
"for if we live, we live to jehovah,*+ and if we die, we die to jehovah.
* so both if we live and if we die, we belong to jehovah.".
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Designs - The scripture is talking about Jesus but the WTBTS relates that scripture to both Jesus and Jehovah. Of course the WTBTS does not support the Trinity but because they have translated the above scripture as they do, their rendering only supports the trinity.
Maybe you could explain why their translation does not support the trinity and the smoke surrounding me will clear.
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Elder lying in court!
by Batman89 inpart 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpp0zdmpc-w. part 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qobxt9czxzi.
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This elder knows very little about his organization. He thinks helping the individual is number one, not keeping the organization clean.
Here he is telling lie after lie and he knows he's doing it. Didn't he swear an oath to tell the truth and nothing but the truth. I guess when you think you have the truth but don't actually have it you lose the ability to tell the truth.
We don't have titles - sure, when I next hear a GB member being introducted on stage as a GB member I'll just pretend that is not his actual title.
What is really sickening is that he tries to use the bible to support his comments.
Some of the outrageous statements he makes include =-According to him for every df'd person who felt their experience was bad he has 100 who will testify that it was good, lol.
A seven year old needs to be 'helped' if they attend a birthday party.
The '52 Watchtower statement is no longer accurate. (where was the retraction?) He is so worried about apostates and doesn't recongize that his own literature holds apostate statements.
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If You Owned This Site Would It Be Any Different?
by minimus inthis site is probably one of the most informative jw sites on the internet.
if you want to keep abreast of the watchtower, this is a great place to find out the latest in jw land.
kudos to simon for keeping it going all these years!!!
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No it wouldn't be the same, Simon does an excellant job. He is a very level headed person with a personality that is non egotistical.
I love the way that this forum layout encourages a collection of individual thoughts and opinions.
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A glaring example of how Watchtower's insertion of "Jehovah" corrupts the NT
by Island Man in"the rnwt replaces "kyrios" (lord) with "jehovah" in translating romans 14:8 as follows:.
"for if we live, we live to jehovah,*+ and if we die, we die to jehovah.
* so both if we live and if we die, we belong to jehovah.".
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I agree with Villagirl. If they believe their interpretation is so far superior then this is a great scripture to prove that they do support the trinity.
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"Probably You Might be Saved" - Somewhere in Zephaniah As I Recall
by Perry inthe watchtower (and old-timers in the org) love to quote old testament passages that were directed toward israel.
however, the new testament is "a better covenant based upon better promises".. in the following verses, salvation is not described as a possibility, but as a certainty, as a present possession for the original christians:.
justification is a present possession (rom.
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The Watchtower doesn't want to give this message because it is hungry for slaves to do it's work in recruiting members and feeding it money.
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Could the WT have paid of large loans when it sold NY properties?
by StephaneLaliberte init seems that everyone is taking for granted that the sociaty has made 1 billion in profit.
could anyone tell me why it would not be a posibility that the society had a large number of mortgages attached to these properties?
wouldn't that explain the latest monney grab from the congregations?.
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It is a possibility. They could have used these properties as leverage. Many investors do it, they buy an asset then use the value of that asset to borrow money to buy another asset or invest in a money making venture. They continue to use the money making asset to borrow more money to invest further. Some people accummulate dozens of properties by this method and owe a lot of money.
If the WTBTS had done this and used the borrowed money to invest in hedge funds they probably lost a lot of money during the financial crisis.
In Australia it is a pretty easy thing to do a title search on a property but it costs money. The title search shows if there is or was a mortgage attached at some time to a property, they are recorded on the title to establish third party interests. The WTBTS would probably be reluctant for this information to be made permanent and would be unlikely do this.
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New to The Jehovahs Witness Faith and need some help
by jnjburkett inhello there i am new to the faith and have been studying for about a month.
i am very excited and hungry for the truth and have not missed a meeting or study since the memorial.
we do about 2 bible studies a week.
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Let's say you join the religion and your brother thinking that you know what you're doing, decides to get baptized as well. He then decides to do his own research and finds it is not the truth, discusses this with the elders and gets disfellowshipped because he will not change his view.
This would mean that you will be required to shun him, you will not be able to speak to him, you cannot socialize with him or have anything to do with him. He will no longer be a part of your life and it is you that needs to cut him off, you have no choice and you are not allowed to secrectly associate with him. If a serious family matter came up and he needed to be informed then you would be allowed to communicate this to him, but nothing else. How would you feel about this?
This is no hypothetical situation, it is happening all the time and a reason why many are here trying to warn others or the heartbreaking consequences.
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Great campagne in Portugal (ex-JW)
by TJ Curioso ini like to tell you what we've been doing these past few days here in portugal (ex-jw).
we create a brochure and printing, so we can send to the maximum of congregations in portugal.
some individuals were also covered in this campaign.. the title of the pamphlet is: "when will the kingdom arrive?".
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The brochure is very good but I wonder if you have substantiated all the claims against each of the years? There needs to be a reference included against the statements made for each of the years so that the reader knows which Watchtower article these claims were made.
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My Elderette is attempting to change the subject again
by Faithful Witness inwe were in the middle of discussing their use of god's personal name, and miss k was not able to find one place in the bible, where jesus actually said the name out loud (that wasn't a quote from the ot).
we had started out by talking about jesus being "the way, the truth and the life.
" then she stated that one of the purposes of jesus' coming to earth, was "to make god's name known.
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It's great that you come here and post in detail about what is being said. No doubt many of us have heard it all but the way you are dealing with it is very helpful. Not only do you show a lot of confidence, which is encouraging to observers but you disect the conversations for us and I know I'm learning from it.