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Snare & Racket's Graduation Picture

by cofty in

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friends

after years of hard work and study, former bethel boy snare & racket is now officially a medical doctor.. his story is an inspiration that there can be life after the watchtower.

he has given me permission to post his graduation picture.. .

Listener

Congratulations to Snare, that is very impressive.

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Who Buy's Food From the Food Bank? Would the Watchtower Permit This?

by BucketShopBill in

hello everyone on jwn, allow me to introduce some of the qualifed agenices who legally use our services provided by the food bank.

as a fading jw i am trying to find ways to fill up the time i wasted in field circus and try to make this world a better place.

the food bank is used by our judicial system, we get lots of low-level criminals doing community service, every other day i hear "what did you do?

Listener

They want the r & f to spend their time and effort for them exclusively. It is a publishing and construction business and all work that they encourage centers around this.

We may see a change in the future as Countries are reviewing their classifaction of a charity to include only those who are demonstratably helping those in need.

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WHEN WAS THE VERY LAST ARTICLE ON BLOOD IN EITHER THE WATCHTOWER OR THE AWAKE?

by steve2 in

there's been a buzz on this forum - on and off but currently on - that there has not been an article in any watchtower publication on the blood ban for a while - which feeds speculation that the organization is distancing itself from this doctrinal absurdity.

does that mean there's been nothing mentioned about the blood doctrine for months or years?

specifically, when did the watchtower last mention the blood ban?

Listener

They used to cite the blood ban as being a distinguishing feature of them as being the true religion.

Watchtower 78 4/15

From that time forward, true religion included respect for blood, which God himself said was to represent life that came from and belonged to Him...

Has this distinguishing feature of true religion since been abandoned? Though most churches disregard or do not teach what the Bible says in this connection, it is still a identifying mark of genuine Christianity

However not one mention of it was made in the recent Awake 07/14 mag under the title 'Can true religion be identified?"

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South Africa Bethel Dance Party!

by Atlantis in

south africa bethel dance party.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm1jhbapb1u.petra

Listener

The Video was first uploaded on Youtube in January, 2014. It is interesting that this is different to the other party video's we have seen. This was a show put on by South African Bethelites for visitors.

Visits to Bethel HQ may actually turn into a mini theme park, they are certainly heading that way.

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I know 2 of the Elders on the Ray Franz JC

by James Jackson in

when i read coc, i was stunned that the 2 elders (theotis french & rob dibble) were on ray franz judcial committee.

i have known these men for over 20 years having done rbc and convention work with them.

they are still elders today which means they were in their early 30's(which is unheard of for a case of this importance to have inexperienced elders to sit on) on this committee.. without revealing myself, i have never tried(but have wanted to), ask them about their on having to judge a former gb member.. then out of the blue, about a year ago, i was mentioning how hard it is trying to get younger ones to volunteer to one of these elders, and he says"this is nothing compared to to sitting on the committee that had to disfellowship ray franz".

Listener

JJ are you able to provide a description of the two men - Theotis French and Ron Dibble?

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South Africa Bethel Dance Party!

by Atlantis in

south africa bethel dance party.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm1jhbapb1u.petra

Listener

They have a very large Bethal Branch in South Africa, on the Video the guy says currently 988 and they are expanding.

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Now this is strange...

by factfinder in

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i checked jw.org earlier today.

the october 1 wt was up, but the pdf function did not work-still you could read the articles.

the october g was up too, no pdf but you could read the articles.. oddly, after the article on belize it had an item about not missing the upcoming 2014 memorial of jesus' death.

Listener

If you put October 2014 Awake into Google search it will come up but the links don't work. One of the Articles is "What is true success?"

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Are they really that stupid

by moley in

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i was recently approached by a couple of borg drones while i was walking my dog, and i thought why not, may plant a seed or two (how wrong was i).

there was no real logic to what they were saying but as i was in the local park the conversation started to veer to how wonderful nature was and how this was the work of a wonderful creator.

i did not let on i was a former witness and let them continue with their fairy tale of creation and how the vast multitude of animals shows a loving god at work blah blah blah...... but i digress, the converastion then turned to how evolution was false.. apparently to earth is only a few thousand years old, so i mentioned about the burgess shale, to be met with blank stares.

Listener

I've taken up cantleave's challenge and done some research regarding Magnum's point.

W 2007 2/1 states this whilst bashing the 100 minute bible

Aside from the omission of the divine name, Jehovah, a number of other deviations will be noted by serious Bible students. (Psalm 83:18) For example, section 1 states that God “created heaven and earth over a period of six days.” Genesis 1:1, however, simply says: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” After that, the original account describes further acts of creation involving the earth, lasting six “days,” or periods of time. Then, Genesis 2:4 sums up the entire period of creation, calling it “the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven.”

This is from the Creation book

The first part of Genesis indicates that the earth could have existed for billions of years before the first Genesis “day,” though it does not say for how long.

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Something Big is Coming...

by notsurewheretogo in

the annual meeting of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses will be in october 2014.. .. in november 2013, just after the last one they published this now famous statement in the 15th of november 2013 watchtower page 16 paragraph 17 says:.

"at that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from jehovahs organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.

all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.".

Listener

Here's a quote from the September 2014 WT where they are using the preaching work to demonstrate that they have the Truth. Are there any hints here for possible changes?

, 8. What initiative has Jehovah’s organization taken? (See opening image.)

7 During the modern-day history of Jehovah’s Witnesses, those taking the lead have zealously promoted the preaching and teaching of the good news around the world. Today, almost eight million zealous Witnesses are doing their utmost to spread Christ’s message in well over 600 languages, with more to come! Jehovah’s Witnesses are clearly identified by their house-to-house ministry and by their preaching on the streets, sometimes using display tables and mobile literature carts.

8 More than 2,900 translators have received specialized training to translate the Bible and Bible literature. Their work is certainly not limited to what might be considered major languages. Their efforts include hundreds of languages that are not widely known but that are, nevertheless, spoken by millions of people. For example, in Spain millions of Catalonians speak their native language, Catalan, on a daily basis. In recent times especially, there has been a resurgence of Catalan and its variations in Andorra, Alicante, the Balearic Islands, and Valencia. Jehovah’s Witnesses now produce Bible literature in Catalan, and Christian meetings are being held in the language that warms the hearts of the Catalonian people.

The next few paragraphs rattle on about the translation work. When they reduced the size of the magazines their reasoning was because they would then be able to translate them into more languages.

They make this statement - "doing their utmost to spread Christ’s message in well over 600 languages, with more to come!". Notice their exclamation mark. For some reason they are focusing on their translation work but it is puzzlying as to why they would close so many branches.

Jehovah’s Witnesses are clearly identified by their house-to-house ministry and by their preaching on the streets, sometimes using display tables and mobile literature carts.

One would think that they always had display tables and literature carts but this statement also shows that the focus is being taken off the house to house work.

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Chautauqua Salute makes a comeback at the Indianapolis Regional convention 7/13/14

by dropoffyourkeylee in

as the regional convention ended in indianapolis, mark sanderson invited all the international delegates to come out onto the field for the final song.

as they walked out, they all held a white handkerchief aloft as they waved.

some in the audience waved a white cloth in return.

Listener

They could Sparrowdown but it might take a while to pull their tight pants off.

Thanks for your research Dropoffyourkeylee. It's just great to see the tradition's of men resurrected in our current times.