Tim, a search on this forum brings up the following link
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/8947/3/Why-No-Disfellowshipping-Before-1952
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When elders became the disfellowshippers instead of the entire congregation.
by tim hooper ini'm trying to find the wt instructions for this procedure.
extensive googling brings up watchtower 1944 may 15 p.151 as the reference.
anyone able to look up the reference?
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Embarrassed and Glassy-Eyed stop by
by wheelwithinwheel intwo brothers doing the territory stopped in at my place.
i kept them on the step.
after some hellos and catching up, i said so you folks are on tv now.
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That was smart thinking to get down on your knees and bow. They aren't going to forget that anytime soon, they'll recall it every time they see all this praise being showered on JW org.
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Appointment of Elders/Deacons
by lambsbottom inso i attended a bible student's meeting yesterday where they were discussing scriptures to prepare for their annual business meeting.
at that meeting, they come to a consensus for any elders, deacons, etc.
that particular group requires 80% of the group to be in agreement on any particular issue.. anyway, i was doing some research on the appointment of elders in the first century congregation (according to the bible).
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Good question. Before their 2013 change to the FDS doctrine they believed they had been given authority over all Christ's belongings, now they believe they do not get this until they are in heaven. Their current teaching is that Jesus appointed them to feed the sheep only.
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Rutherford's last book "Children" 1941- Advice DONT HAVE KIDS...Where it all started!
by Witness 007 inwatchtower 1941 sept. 15 p.283, 288 "in front of the convention platform the children recieving there free gift (copy) not as a play thing but as the lords instrument for the work in the remaining months before armagedon..." so what lovely message did the kids get from judge rutherford?
children 1941page 281 "no children were taken onto noah's ark...it is proper to wait until after armagedon to have children...its only afew more years till armagedon..." the book concluded.
"(john and his girlfriend talk) ...armagedon is surely near our hope is within afew years our marriage will be consumated and we will have sweet children...we will defer marriage and pioneer ...we will not see each other for a time.." thats why i dont have kids it all started with this fools book!.
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Welcome Zain. I've started going through it yesterday and it is interesting, I've started a couple of posts already.
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WTBTS Assets and Individuals Australia 1943
by Listener inthe 1983 yearbook pg 97 talks about a time in australia where the brothers were acting inappropriately and needed to be cleaned up.
this is from the yearbook.
"the commercial activities of the previous five years now began to take their toll.
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Request for free Visa's for delegates
by Listener inpage 32 of 181 .
</form> it is so interesting going through the australian national archives in regards to the jws.. http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/searchnretrieve/interface/detailsreports/itemdetail.aspx?barcode=7122198&isav=n.
i've come across this letter (and response) from the wtbts to the australian government requesting that they consider providing free visa's to delegates from indonesia.
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It is so interesting going through the Australian National Archives in regards to the JWs.
I've come across this letter (and response) from the WTBTS to the Australian Government requesting that they consider providing free Visa's to delegates from Indonesia.
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Convention new book reveals "GROUP 2" of the 1914 generation...the horror.
by Witness 007 ingods kingdom rules!
the convention book released yesterday....say hi to group 2 of the 1914 generation!!
a graph shows group 1 being fred franz john barr etc...with a group 2 consisting of the current young faithful slaves we "met" the "group ones.
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Yes, I agree Greener. Pushing the beginning backwards just makes it look more ridiculous, it is just so confusing to consider the idea and presenting this idea to a JW would stop them short, there is no logical answer, they are stuck with one line of thought as presented to them by the GB.
They are having so much trouble with this teaching that they have to keep explaining it. Part of their problem is that they want to make it seem that Armageddon is coming soon and so they have put their own time scale on their idea. There is no limit to the generations of anointed since 1914, who is overlapping with who and why stop at two generations?
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Convention new book reveals "GROUP 2" of the 1914 generation...the horror.
by Witness 007 ingods kingdom rules!
the convention book released yesterday....say hi to group 2 of the 1914 generation!!
a graph shows group 1 being fred franz john barr etc...with a group 2 consisting of the current young faithful slaves we "met" the "group ones.
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Welcome Greener, nice to hear from you.
I find their reasoning on 'this generation' to be so ridiculous that it hardly merits any thinking on their idea.
It would appear that the 1st generation didn't start with Franz. It started with any who were there in 1914, including Russel and Rutherford. I think they are trying to impress the idea that the 1st generation ended with Franz.
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WTBTS Assets and Individuals Australia 1943
by Listener inthe 1983 yearbook pg 97 talks about a time in australia where the brothers were acting inappropriately and needed to be cleaned up.
this is from the yearbook.
"the commercial activities of the previous five years now began to take their toll.
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Here's another interesting document from the Secret Service Department in Australia. Of particular interest is the fact that individuals were withdrawing the money belonging to the WTBTS and transferring it into personal accounts. Also of interest was the fact that they were broadcasting the national anthem on their radio stations.
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W.W 2 - 1940's Australia Bethel helps out war effort!!
by Witness 007 inaustralia bethel had from 1938 began to make big money!
they employed many brothers.
they opened a saw mill, bakery, 20 kingdom farms, and an engineering company.
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Thanks W007.
I am starting to think that using WTBTS Assets and properties to help support the war effort was a deliberate ploy to protect their ownership. The Government had banned their books and confiscated some of their property, in particular there was once property in Sturt Street, South Australia, a large Kingdom Hall that could seat over 200 people and accommodate two families. It was worth approximately 3,000 pounds in 1943. This property was taken from the JWs and used as a storage unit by the Government until a later court case restored ownership to the WTBTS.
By becoming involved in the war effort, I wonder how much it helped in getting the bans overturned and being able to retain their assets.
