How is a child chid who has already been abused going to feel after seeing this video? Probably very bad because they hadn't been able to respond to the situation as portrayed in the video.
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WT Society Makes Light of Child Abuse Crimes by Portraying them as Cartoons
by flipper ini commented on this on another thread- but i believe this has enough importance to create a thread about this situation in and of itself.
at the current district convention as you know the wt society released a " sophie & caleb " video allegedly warning parents about the dangers of child abuse.
they don't really use the words " child abuse " in the video - but just say if " someone tries to touch you in a manner you aren't comfortable with " and portray it as a cartoon !
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July Broadcast Denies That JW Children Die Rather Than Have Medical Care
by BluesBrother inanthony morris 3rd delivered the broadcast this month and advised that lies are circulated that they let children die rather than have medical care .
he says this is so inaccurate as to be a boldfaced lie ...... further he says it is "up to the parents to determine what would be the best treatment for their children" .
now, does this mean that parents are really free to make a decision to accept blood for their minor child, if they so choose?
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My impression is that Anthony morris wanted to address all those people attacking/persecuting him. He seemed very sober and unhappy. -
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A difficult yet necessary decision
by Brother Jeramy inthe past five weeks have been perhaps the most painful in my life as a witness.. some months ago a young man (i'd say in his late thirties or early forties) began attending meetings at my kingdom hall.
he had just moved to my area from another state.
he had disassociated himself from his home congregation many years back, when he was 20 years old and going through many of the typical trials and temptations most young men experience.. two of the elders met with him initially, and they later shared the details with the body of elders.
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No doubt they will put the fault down to one or two elders, they're just imperfect men after all. The problem is that there shouldn't be any douchbag elders in the first place. They are so reluctant to remove bad elders.
Brother jeremey, If you are going to write a letter you might want to include the instructions on reinstatement written in the secret shepherding the flock book.
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July Broadcast Scriptural Error- FDS/Helper Fail.
by Hold Me-Thrill Me inhe has inadvertently moved the timing of the beginning of the last days to the future.
this kind of scriptural error is the direct result of superficial bible reading.
according to luke 21, first comes the persecution then the wars, earthquakes, food shortages, fearful sights etc.
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WT Society Makes Light of Child Abuse Crimes by Portraying them as Cartoons
by flipper ini commented on this on another thread- but i believe this has enough importance to create a thread about this situation in and of itself.
at the current district convention as you know the wt society released a " sophie & caleb " video allegedly warning parents about the dangers of child abuse.
they don't really use the words " child abuse " in the video - but just say if " someone tries to touch you in a manner you aren't comfortable with " and portray it as a cartoon !
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The blob in the cartoon is ridiculous and doesn't help the child visualize the reality of the situation. Molestors don't look like scarey monsters. They also tell the child to rely on their own conscience, unfortunately the molester knows how to manipulate the child's thoughts and this isn't helpful at all.
The society knows how easy they are to manipulate, they're already asking for their ice cream money. They can't be relied upon to make a serious video about child abuse.
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July Broadcast Denies That JW Children Die Rather Than Have Medical Care
by BluesBrother inanthony morris 3rd delivered the broadcast this month and advised that lies are circulated that they let children die rather than have medical care .
he says this is so inaccurate as to be a boldfaced lie ...... further he says it is "up to the parents to determine what would be the best treatment for their children" .
now, does this mean that parents are really free to make a decision to accept blood for their minor child, if they so choose?
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Come on guys, you're being a bit mean, don't you think? He told us how much good works they do. Gosh, they even provide material for the blind and deaf even though it is at a great cost to them. -
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Anthony Morris III: "...we cannot control everything that an individual might say..."
by cappytan ini noticed that anthony morris iii just said on the broadcast: "while we cannot control everything that an individual might say, it is clear that over the decades protecting children from abuse is a top priority for this organization.".
that, in my opinion, is a direct response to the richard ashe "spiritual protection not physical protection" deposition.. here's a video putting the two statements side by side.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgevpuyn7gy.
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During the same speech, he talks about a deceased brother and says he is sure that he is now in heaven as a king with Jesus. This guy will say anything. -
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Questions to ask after July broadcast
by scooterspank injust wondering what questions you might ask an active jw following the july broadcast and the 10 minutes addressing child sex abuse?
or is it even worth the trouble.
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What I'd really like to ask is - Why do you think that Anthony Morris talks about wordly people and the media talking about JWs as only being lies and persecution then immediately goes on to talk about child abuse? Could the reason be is that they want the JW to think that any child abuse reports that they hear are just lies, fabrications and exaggerated stories?
What I would ask is - Does the organization, with it's position of authority urge JWs (parents etc.) to report child abuse to the police/authorities? From reports made here I think the answer would be yes in most cases. I would then suggest that this is not the case and if you listen closely to Morris he says they do not discourage it. I would explain how this alone has caused many problems and resulted in much unnecessary abuse and abusers have not had to answer to police or courts. No doubt they would still not believe me that the org. does not encourage reporting. I would leave them with the quest to find something, anything written by the organization which actually encourages the reporting.
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Why using Jehovah for God's name is as good as using Yahweh
by oppostate inin another thread i wrote some notes about why using jehovah in english is as good as using yahweh.
i'm starting a discussion on this topic because it sounds quite ignorant to hear people talk of the monk who started using it in latin without really understanding why the monk did so.. the spanish dominican monk, raymundus martini, in 1270, didn't get hoodwinked by an old jewish superstition about pronouncing the divine name with the vowel points of another word.. 1. first the vowel points of adonay and jehovah cannot be the same for grammatical reasons.
you just can't use the same vowel points because some vowels aren't paired with some consonants in pronouncing hebrew words.
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They have acknowledged Martini's contribution in one Watchtower article.
The Watchtower 1950 12/1 has a letter that they wrote to the Catholic Church
" We do not say that “Jehovah” is the correct pronunciation of God’s name...But according to the Aramaic language which Christ and his apostles spoke, his name was pronounced “Yeshu′a” (the a representing a gutteral ending). .... . However, if you call it shallow scholarship for the Committee to use the word Jehovah in the New World Translation, then you will have to admit that it is due to the shallow scholarship of the Roman Catholic clergy of the thirteenth century, for in that century the word historically appears among them...But in its 2nd last paragraph the Translation Committee says: “While inclining to view the pronunciation ‘Yah·weh′’ as the more correct way, we have retained the form ‘Jehovah’ because of people’s familiarity with it since the 14th century"
Don't you just love the WTBTS? They are telling the Catholic Church that if they think they are bad scholars then this would make them the bad scholars.
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A difficult yet necessary decision
by Brother Jeramy inthe past five weeks have been perhaps the most painful in my life as a witness.. some months ago a young man (i'd say in his late thirties or early forties) began attending meetings at my kingdom hall.
he had just moved to my area from another state.
he had disassociated himself from his home congregation many years back, when he was 20 years old and going through many of the typical trials and temptations most young men experience.. two of the elders met with him initially, and they later shared the details with the body of elders.
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Brother Jeremy, as you know it will be a difficult road ahead of you but your compassion for other people has already set you on the right path. It's the kind of passion I see in "JW Struggle", an ex elder, who has a channel on Youtube. He makes himself available to anyone seeking advice and strengthening, so feel free to contact him if you wish.
We are lucky to have the support that surrounds us and I admire the support that you are showing to this young fellow.