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  Who would you like to hear of leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses ?

  by wozza in

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  i'll start off with this one:.

  some years ago when i was formulating my exit, i employed for some time an ms brother from another congregation.. i'd had a couple of young "worldly" lads work for me but they proved unreliable as they used drugs or alchohol and consequently would'nt arrive at work and such like.. so when i was was contacted by this brother and spoke to him and heard he'd worked at the australian bethel for some time on construction and wanted an opportunity to learn the trade of bricklaying ,i thought ,"great someone to finally trust and be reliable".

  he was in his 40's at the time and he worked like a trojan ,was honest ,really likeable and interesting ,could play the classical guitar beautifully ,had a beautiful family.

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  I love to hear of whole families leaving together, unfortunately it's pretty rare.
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  AUSTRALIA – Artemis Legal launches inquiry into group and class action lawsuits against Jehovah’s Witnesses

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
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  jehovah's witnesses - group action lawyers fighting for justice | artemis legal .

  artemis legal | watchtower claims.

  13 october 2015 .

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  I am absolutely amazed that there is some secret list of legal reps that the Commission recommend. Maybe it's a list that the RC provides to certain individuals where they can select from legal reps that the Commission is prepared to meet the cost of rather than having the individual pay.

  That is fine umbertocho if you don't want to share it but there's no harm in asking.
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  Jan 2016 study WT attempt to keep control of professed anointed ones, brainwashing in action!

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a really great example of wt pulling doctrine out of their heiney that nowhere exists in the scriptures!

  when i started waking up to ttatt, i remember in my own reading the tons of scriptures that speak of god, the holy spirit, etc teaching directly.

  tons of scriptures that go against the wt doctrine of only able to learn through them.

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  They are being very manipultive inthose two sentences that you highlight.

  Are they being taught by Jehovah (as they say in the first sentence) or do they need to be taught by someone else (as they suggest in the next sentence?).
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  Elders are a “Secret Weapon”

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this just in... elders are a secret weapon (2 chron.

  29:2) ha ha!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsxyd9-oszc.

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  This talk is based on the Watchtower Nov 2013 about 7 shepherds and 8 dukes (them being the secret weapon)

  The Bible says that this army is made up of “seven shepherds” and “eight dukes,” or princes. (Micah 5:5) Who are they? They are the congregation elders. (1 Peter 5:2) Today, Jehovah is using many faithful elders to shepherd and to strengthen his people for the future attack of “the Assyrian.” * (See footnote.) Micah’s prophecy tells us that they will “shepherd the land of Assyria with the sword.” (Micah 5:6) One of the weapons they use to defeat the enemy is “the sword of the spirit,” God’s Word.—Ephesians 6:17; 2 Corinthians 10:4.
  17. What four lessons can the elders learn from the account we have discussed?
  17 Elders, you can learn some helpful lessons from what we have just discussed: (1) The best thing you can do to prepare for the future attack of “the Assyrian” is to strengthen your faith in God and help your brothers to do the same. (2) When “the Assyrian” attacks, you must be completely convinced that Jehovah will save us. (3) At that time, the direction that you receive from Jehovah’s organization may seem strange or unusual. But all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether we agree with them or not, because obeying these instructions will save our lives. (4) If any are putting their trust in the education of this world, material things, or human organizations, they must change their way of thinking now. You must be ready to help any who may not be putting their complete trust in Jehovah.

  From reading the article, they attempt to explain that the scripture had fulfillment in Hezekiahs time, Jesus time and today. Seems like thiey are retaining this type and anti type without supporting it biblically.
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  139th Gilead Graduation Videos

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the gilead graduate videos are now up on jw org tv.

  they've outdone themselves this time by presenting 3 videos.

  i didn't listen to it all but here is a little summary of them.. losch's talk about spiritual richness.

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  Stuckinarut2 it is Faye and her husband was also there, Darren Janes. They're not a young couple, she would be at least 52. I gather they won't be returning to Bethel after being there for a good number of years so it will be a big change for them.
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  139th Gilead Graduation Videos

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the gilead graduate videos are now up on jw org tv.

  they've outdone themselves this time by presenting 3 videos.

  i didn't listen to it all but here is a little summary of them.. losch's talk about spiritual richness.

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  The Gilead graduate Videos are now up on JW org TV. They've outdone themselves this time by presenting 3 videos. I didn't listen to it all but here is a little summary of them.

  Losch's talk about spiritual richness. He talked about the students not attending so they could personally become spiritually rich (that would be a wrong reason) but they came because they love God and want to help others. He promised that Jehovah would care for all the daily needs of the Gillead graduates and their families.

  Splane - talked about being loyal like Baruck

  Br Coffin - Apply the golden rule - "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". Keep on forgiving. When you leave this place you will be continue to be surrounded by imperfect people trying to do the perfect will of God in some of the most difficult circumstances of human history.

  Bro Mark Numair - To keep the miracle going. Two prayers by Hannah recorded by Samuel. He said that today you may have a work assignment, tomorrow it might change. You're not dedicated to a work assignment you are dedicated to Jehovah. Motive is important. Don't worry about negative things said about you just live your life so that no one will believe those negative things said about you. You've been here for 5 months and stuck together like glue, show that same interest in others in your assignment. We are not a military organization we are a family and we build others up.

  The next video are presentations by the students. Sounds like their preaching work would be much more effective if they just travelled all the time.

  Morris - We are supposed to always do our best to rejoice.

  Next was the presentation, their certificates and placements.

  Surprise, just about all of the graduates have been assigned back to their original homelands.

  Another surprise for me personally was having known one of the graduates many years ago. She had been working at the Sydney Bethel with her husband before attending the Gillead School.

  There were others amongst the graduates who had also been working at their Bethel home. Going by the stats that Losch gave most of them have been serving full time, either witnessing or Bethel. I guess there will be many surprised family members and friends surprised to hear that they will be returning to their home countries. I did not hear whether they were offered positions as regular pioneers or not.
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  "Kings and Priests" - Churned Out on Other Sites.

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've never examined another well known anti-org site's beliefs before, but having just looked at it via a link in a current post, i immediately noted the wtbts/g.b.

  's favourite phrase - "kings and priests" - being parroted!.

  reasoning purely on the bible, the greek word "basileus" can be translated as leader of the people, prince, commander, lord of the land, king.

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  We are discussing the term found in the book of revelation. If it is King or Prince,the book is symbolic. When it talks about virgins it doesn't necessarily mean real virgins.

  How many times have we seen the expression 'he lives like a King'.

  Also this interpretation comes from an organisation that believes spiritual Israel consists only of Kings and Priests.
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  OF DOGS AND BITES AND BIKES AND THINGS

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the thought suddenly struck me plain and obvious: "these dogs won't stop until i'm good and bloody.".

  there were two of them; a mixed breed of boxer and pit bull; clean, white--collared, tagged and--for some inexplicable reason, ferociously intent on tearing me to shreds!.

  ah, but i'm getting ahead of myself.

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  That's awful Terry. It's not enough that the dogs will be quarantined for ten days and the owner fined. Can you make a small claim out of it and take him to court? It is not a difficult thing to do yourself without the need for a lawyer.
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  vent: Got into it this morning with my wife agian. younger son wants to go to a B-day, i said he could...she turned cult.

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yep, he told her that he wants to go a friends b-day...keep in mind it's not until december.

  well anyway i told her i didn't mind if he did and i would take him.

  yep, enter cult mode.....i hate this freaking cult.

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  Listener

  On jw org, regarding the question about birthdays, it says

  "Children of witness parents do not feel deprived"

  This is a straight out lie. It might be true of some children but that does not make the statement true. Guilting your son will not make it true either.
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  How to survive an assembly

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey i was just wondering if you guys had any ideas on how to keep my brain occupied while i'm at an assembly tommorow.

  maybe besides tallying the number of times they say jehovah and jesus or counting how many people are wearing red.

  i want to keep myself from going insane or having some kind of panic attack lol.

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  Take notes on your notepad with the focus on increasing your typing speed.

  Do math sums in your head.

  Focus on the people around you and try to work out what they are doing to distract themselves.

  Think of a hobby you are interested in and try to come up with ideas of how you can do it better or create new ideas.

  Pretend you are going to write a book and come up with a detailed story plot and different characters to include.