He needed to read out from a script, word for word, just to make sure he got the spin conveyed correctly.
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ANNOUNCEMENT CLIP ...2015 Annual meeting Sam Herd confirming what we knew a month ago about slow down and halt of worldwide construction
by Watchtower-Free inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_h68ktwpim&feature=youtu.be.
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We love you---but we don't trust you!
by eyeuse2badub incan you truly love someone if you dont fully trust them and you are not willing to confide in them?
true love is a two way street right?
i just listened to the 2015 agm broadcast.
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Like little children the flock trust them regardless. As mature adults that is not the smart thing to do.
Without being upfront about finances they do not deserve to be trusted because they cannot prove themselves worthy of it.
Does God really expect us to have blind trust in an organization?
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Update on Australian Royal Commission - Proposed Redress
by Pants of Righteousness inapologies if this has been posted previously, but this news item has appeared today regarding the proposed redress for abuse victims following the australian royal commission:.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-27/labor-pledges-payments-for-sex-abuse-survivors/6886864.
what's interesting is that in january it was proposed that the federal government contribute almost half of an estimated $4.3 billion redress scheme.
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It's a bit difficult for the Commission to come up with a plan for compensation. It's not just religions that they are looking into but many other organization's, most of them have limited finances and many of them would be seen to be providing services that would normally have to be provided by the Government if they didn't exist. There are many that the Government already provides funds to or give generous tax breaks just so they can exist. It is not in the Governments interest to see them go bankrupt. Most would never have envisaged this extra cost.
We aren't necessarily talking about the crimes that had been committed by the organizations being investigated. The crimes have generally been committed by the abusers and will be dealt with separately. The problem is more one of negligence rather than a crime. This negligence isn't identified by Police but rather only when the party damaged begins a court process and it is determined by a Judge. It is not clear cut. It is going to be difficult to set the one dollar payment for redress when it is clear that one organization has been more negligent than another organization and the abuse incurred on one individual is very different to that of another individual. I don't know how they are going to do it if the Government doesn't make the payment. Maybe the best they could do is set up a legal bureau that becomes an intermediary between the victim and the organization to facilitate negotiations and recommendations.
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I'm not religious I'm spiritual?
by Joliette inhow do you guys feel when you hear people say this?
whenever i tell people that i'm not religious, a humanist, they said i'm not religious either, i'm spiritual.
i consider myself to be a humanist, and i can't tell you guys how happy i am being a humanist.
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Xanthippe, you explained spirituality well, that is what I think also but it does mean different things to different people. As for a purely religious person, a good example would be the Pharisees. -
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Some Recent U.K. Information ...
by The Searcher in... just received!
london bethel: last year a couple in their fifties were laid off from bethel and made special pioneers.
in january they will be demoted to regular pioneers.
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Compared to some other stories we are hearing, that couple probably aren't as bad off.
If the org were serious about sending Bethelites back to the more important work of preaching and at least a bit kind, they would have offered all those leaving Bethel the opportunity to be assigned as Special Pioneers with a clear direction that it would only be for a year or two before being reassigned to Regular Pioneers if they so wished. Their money woes must be huge.
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No they don't. Up until around 1950 they used to teach it was appropriate to worship Jesus but now say it is wrong. -
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Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)
by slimboyfat inafter some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.
thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.
i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.
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WiFi problems? Want a faster network? Try Powerline Adapters!
by Simon inwifi is great.
it's so easy and convenient.
but it can be slow.. years ago when it first came out you maybe had a pc and a couple of other devices at most.
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We just bought one and any are still trying to connect it. It does not have WiFi capabilities so you need a cable to connect it to a device. My son is trying to connect t it to another modem which has WiFi but hasn't figured out how to do it yet.
Our is only 500mbs and won't reach anywhere near that speed but he says that is sufficient for what we need. There are some good reviews for the gigabit ones.
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Hello from an exmormon
by Cold-Dodger insomeone named john free popped in on one of my posts at exmormon[dot]com and mentioned this website.
i have a lot of questions.
i never knew much about about the jw church.
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Welcome Cold Dodger.
What a coincidence....or was it??? :) I was just looking at an ex Mormon Forum yesterday to get some idea of what sort of issues an ex Mormon faces.
What stood out to me was how the problems that leaving or not supporting the Mormon teachings effect the family, particularly marriage partners. It seems that it has the same effect as it does within the JW religion. It tears them apart so often. The partner that wants to remain in the religion seems to be the one that is responsible for initiating separation and divorce in most cases. Given that they are supposed to be the spiritually strong one it demonstrates that the religion is more cultish and entrapping than it is christian.
Within the JW religion there are two separate classes, with there being two hopes. There is one class that believe they are anointed and have a heavenly hope when they die, they will then become Kings and Priests. Before around the year 1935 all JWs were of this class and they teach that there will only be 144,000 in it. As the number of JWs grew the President at that time decided to create this second class who have an earthly hope of everlasting life. They strongly encourage JWs to consider themselves as being of the earthly class. Today there are approximately 12,000 who call themselves anointed. It is quite mysterious as to how individuals know they are anointed but the leaders at the top, called the Governing Body (comprising 7 men currently) all claim to be anointed.
We are so lucky today to have the internet where experiences can be shared and false doctrines are exposed.
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Video: "Iron Sharpens Iron"
by wifibandit inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joehewofiba.
is this supposed to placate the ones who have been recently fired?
is this a sign of the aging jw leadership?
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It's more than just a retirement for these men, they've been demoted and their power has been watered down. They will probably keep their positions as an Elder in their congregation but that's about it.