They disfellowship a large amount of people after confession on the basis that they are not repentant, therefore it can only be concluded that these people were not interested in seeking spiritual guidance in the first instance which is why clergy privelage is given in the first place.
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Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation
by OrphanCrow incourt denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
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New Apostasy Trial on YouTube
by Listener ina guy by the name of son of thunder has just uploaded his apostasy trial.
it is really impressive and this guy knows his stuff.
he is very engaging and a pleasure to listen to.
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According to YouTube Egyptian bethel closing and special pioneer's
by Crazyguy inaccording to you tubers mike and kim and son of thunder, egyptian branch closing.
son of thunder is saying he has relatives that we're running bethel in egypt for years and they have been let go reassigned as special pioneers yet according to him this job no longer pays a wage.
he also states that 5000 total bethelites world wide are being let go.
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Is the organisation becoming over reliant on the internet and producing as many translations as they can in spreading the good news? Closing down branch's like Egypt, when they have already been able to establish an underground operation without much Government interference might be a bad move for them.
They will need a really good support network and I thought that was what the Branch's were all about as well as being 'organized'.
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New Apostasy Trial on YouTube
by Listener ina guy by the name of son of thunder has just uploaded his apostasy trial.
it is really impressive and this guy knows his stuff.
he is very engaging and a pleasure to listen to.
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A guy by the name of Son of Thunder has just uploaded his apostasy trial. It is really impressive and this guy knows his stuff. He is very engaging and a pleasure to listen to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34xtDSX_kRc&feature=em-subs_digest
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Infant baptism in the JW religion, why is it harmful to young ones
by oppostate inbaptism for young jw's is not the same as that practiced by other denominations, and it carries a lot of potential for harm.
getting baptized as a young person in association with the jw organization is harmful to young ones who as they are maturing, wish to exit from the clutches of this captive religion.. when you see young ones, such as the one in the photo below, get baptized, doesn't your heart just sink, knowing the jw religion has caught another victim in its web of deception and abuse?.
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There is an article on JW org about puberty, which would generally be considered to be anywhere from the ages of 10 to 16 (but from the years of 8 according to the WTBTS. These are some of the points they acknowledge -
The hormonal surge that causes the physical changes of puberty can take a toll on your emotions. You might even experience powerful mood swings.....
While going through puberty, many young people also feel extremely self-conscious, as if they were being watched and judged by everyone....
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Try to adopt a positive view. Really, puberty is a physical and emotional makeover that you need.....
The bottom line: Puberty presents its challenges. It also affords you a wonderful opportunity to grow—not just physically but also mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.—1 Samuel 2:26.Even through this tumultuous time the GB consider it appropriate for children to make a public declaration.
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What were Satan and his demons "doing" up in heaven, before being "cast down" in 1914?
by Dunedain ini was just thinking about how the wts has been spouting off for years that satan and his demons were cast down to the vicinity of the earth in 1914, but really, when you think about it, what was the difference before 1914 or after 1914?.
its not like satan and his demons did not have access to the earth.
satan and his demons always were messing with earth.
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Stephen Lett at our assembly today
by StarTrekAngel inhe delivered the most cultic piece of propaganda i've ever seen in an assembly.
wife typed up the whole thing.
i will be posting when i get a chance.
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Zeb - My feeble understanding of Eve and her birth matters is this. That the term for pain as used in reference to birth is different to the term used for pain in an injury or assault. ie. Eve would give birth in pain as distress as she knew she had stuffed up and all her offspring were now cursed to age and die. But of course the wt is ever hung up on people suffering so they go for the 'pain'.
Thank you for this understanding, it's far from being feeble. He had already told them that they would die if they ate from the forbidden tree, would he then inflict additional discipline after the fact?
Genesis 3:16
o the woman He said, "I will greatly multiply Your pain in childbirth, In pain you will bring forth children; Yet your desire will be for your husband, And he will rule over you."17Then to Adam He said, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat from it'; Cursed is the ground because of you; In toil you will eat of it All the days of your life.… -
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Aude Sapere - the public was advised in the submission from the RC as follows
Toole said that although he understood what was put to him, the Jehovah’s Witness organisation has not reported child sexual abuse on the understanding that only the mandatory reporting laws applied.741 Mr Toole confirmed that the organisation’s understanding was also his understanding.742
417 It is implicit in Mr Toole’s confession to a ‘wake‐up call’ that prior to being called to give evidence before the Royal Commission he did not advise elders from New South Wales of their obligations under the concealment laws. It follows that where elders in NSW formed the view that child sexual abuse had occurred they were obliged under sanction of the criminal law to report those cases to the police.
418 Mr Toole should accordingly be referred to the Law Society of New South Wales for possible investigation. -
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Vincent Toole is still registered in New South Wales as a Principle of a law practice, details can be found on the website of the Law Society of NSW. His email address is also provided if you want to ask him what his status is.
From experience (with the CPA Society - Accountants) they are very protective of their members probably because they are the ones registered with them and they are the ones that pay fees to them.
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Stephen Lett at our assembly today
by StarTrekAngel inhe delivered the most cultic piece of propaganda i've ever seen in an assembly.
wife typed up the whole thing.
i will be posting when i get a chance.
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Makemeanunbeliever
The name choice was coined due to fact I havent been to a meeting in years. However I tested out several faiths and made the person who studied with me at 25 make me a believer. I am affording those here the opportunity to make me an unbeliever if proven so. Nothing so far has moved me in that direction, quite the contrary exactly.
This is the difference. There are not a lot on here who now, do not let any man make them believe in anything. You obviously made a choice at 25 to allow a person you studied with talk you into being a 'believer'.
Makemeanunbeliever - Common sense tells me that with such arrogance here among laymen calling me names would pale in comparison to a man that he and his people viewed as a god. Add to that he being visited by a common man with a speech impediment. Hope that helps.
I can't make any sense out of this. Which man was viewed as a god and who was visited by a common man with a speech impediment? I know that we are talking about Moses who had the speech impediment but who are you saying was Moses visited by?