For an organisation that says it follows the example of the first century Christians not one similarity can be found with all these legal structures. Even their letters are signed by a legal structure rather than individuals.
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WTBTS and the CCJW ?
by Crazyguy inapparently they made this new corporation called the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses in the year 2001. this is the religious side of the cult and wtbts is the printing side and probably the money side.
since the gb think they are of the ccjw and have even stated their non affiliation with the wt is their a way that jws can use this to their advantage, maybe during a jc etc.?
i for example was baptized before 2000 so with the new corporation formed and the gb going to that side what could be argued during a jc?
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Not to toot my own horn...
by Jayk inmy older jw brother tried telling me "you don't take orders very well" which stopped him from inviting me to do a job a make some side cash..we got into a disagreement because recently i started having back problems only while i sleep on my sides.
i think it's because i have a wide back from working out.
once again i explain that and he said "well the job required heavy lifting which is also why i didn't call you" my response being "it's only when i sleep i can still work just don't won't to strain it so i can.
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All the best to both of you. Often times their can be a bit of a competitive nature between brothers but just focus on doing the best for yourself and being there for your brother if he wants some help.
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ExJW responsible for calling the police at the Warwick protest, NOT Watchtower
by Diogenesister inaccording to the great apostate, who spent time with police officers at the protest, they informed him that it was not watchtower who called the police in but another exjw who briefly attended the protest and subsequently disapproved of the protesters methods...claiming they were being "violent".. i find this very difficult to understand.
anyone who saw the bravery of the women who stood up in the kingdom hall and told the story of their abuse and rape could not fail to feel compassion and offer their support.. i know there are posters on this forum who disagree with me.they worry that such protests play into watchtowers "persecution" complex, and naturally i understand their position.. but really, how long do we have to fear their power over their members, and through their members, us.. many jw's simply do not know the extent of the paedophile problem,.they do not know about malawi, the un, the bloodless surgery guinea pig deaths ( thank you orphan crow), the suicides....i simply don't believe that protests don't work....if there are enough of them, and they are organized, and most of all if we are united...we shall make a difference, and that difference may be your loved one.. https://youtu.be/ffhr9onbdrk.
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I think the above Youtube Kingdom Hall crash is different to the one that was done on the 5th November but there's no reason to think that the JWs reaction would not have been the same.
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ExJW responsible for calling the police at the Warwick protest, NOT Watchtower
by Diogenesister inaccording to the great apostate, who spent time with police officers at the protest, they informed him that it was not watchtower who called the police in but another exjw who briefly attended the protest and subsequently disapproved of the protesters methods...claiming they were being "violent".. i find this very difficult to understand.
anyone who saw the bravery of the women who stood up in the kingdom hall and told the story of their abuse and rape could not fail to feel compassion and offer their support.. i know there are posters on this forum who disagree with me.they worry that such protests play into watchtowers "persecution" complex, and naturally i understand their position.. but really, how long do we have to fear their power over their members, and through their members, us.. many jw's simply do not know the extent of the paedophile problem,.they do not know about malawi, the un, the bloodless surgery guinea pig deaths ( thank you orphan crow), the suicides....i simply don't believe that protests don't work....if there are enough of them, and they are organized, and most of all if we are united...we shall make a difference, and that difference may be your loved one.. https://youtu.be/ffhr9onbdrk.
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Leonardo Bonacci has taken down his video. I was going to post a Youtube of a recording made by Youtuber, Bridget Azaz. It looks like she stayed for the whole meeting and was escorted out by police afterwards.
At around the 4 minute mark, after the ex JWs have left, the Elder makes two jokes about the interruptions and has the congregation laughing. That's how much he and the congregation felt about the horrible testimonies presented just minutes before.
Anyway, I wanted to post it on Leonardo's Youtube as he seemed quite concerned that the JWs were being frightened.
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2 witness rule
by punkofnice ini'm gobsmacked.. the 7 rock star popes in warwick know darned well that the 2 witness rule allows child rapists to get away with their crime.. geoff (whacko jacko) jackson was at the australian royal commission and should have seen first hand what a vile man made law the 2 witness rule is.. my question is, why do they still insist on this pervert protecting rule?.
i know it's a highly controlling cult but still...........................stuff my old boots, mate!.
the above is more a rhetorical question.
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A curious JW may wonder what the 'apostates' are saying in regards to the two witness rule, after all, a thinking JW would reason that an ex JW would already understand the Organisations biblical understanding on the matter. -
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Fasten Your Seatbelts - The Crazy Has Started (Also, bring the Koolaid)
by berrygerry infrom facebook:just saw my jw mother after not seeing her for more than 2 years.
when i do see her, it is brief, she never asks about my life, doesn't ask about my 4 children her grandchildren, doesn't ask about my grandchildren...her great grandchildren, she doesn't ask about my other 2 brothers that she is also alienated from, she doesn't ask about my brothers family.
she doesn't talk about the jw/org either.
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It would be interesting to know if they are going to hand the householder the No. 1 2018 public edition of the Watchtower, before or after they give their message of judgement?
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November 13, 2017 TO ALL BOE IN THE US Re: Making the Best Use of Our Kingdom Halls
by wifibandit innovember 13, 2017 to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: making the best use of our kingdom halls.
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The letter says the video will explain the reasons behind the recent changes. I wonder how open they will be this time.
They don't really explain why they need to sell Kingdom Halls other than this 'equalising'. It may be that a number of JWs are seeing this as a reason why they don't need to donate as much since the organisation has done all the research and is getting money from the sale of Kingdom Halls as well as the surplus funds that were in the congregations accounts.
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Another reason Watchtower may be hurting financially
by shepherdless ini don't think anyone else has raised this point.
below i set out the case that the jw demographic in usa has a steadily decreasing combined income, and as a consequence, has less money to donate.
not only is the flock not growing, the flock is producing less wool for the borg to fleece.
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An interesting topic Sheperdless. It looks like Inform Ant has picked up on it on Youtube.
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J.F. Rutherford, Communism and Satan
by MacHislopp injust to share with you, the following:
w50 8/15 p. 251 answering the foes of his government ***
5 we challenge that british jesuit to harmonize, if he can, his accusation with the public declaration by j. f. rutherford, then president of the watch tower society, from londons royal albert hall, sunday, september 11, 1938. delivering his speech face the facts, which was beamed by radio and carried by direct wire to more than 50 cities in the united states, canada, great britain, australia, new zealand and tasmania, and also broadcast by a transcontinental chain of 118 u. s. radio stations,
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I've bumped this thread because of another Watchtower the Organization wrote about their stand against Communism. It went much further than just writing about it and explains how JWs made a public declaration against it at assemblies around the World. Watchtower leaders, including Fred Franz made these declarations known on behalf of all JWs publicly through radio presentations.
This is from the Watchtower 1957 8/1 and is centered on Franz's visit to the Phillipines -
The public relations servant arranged for newsmaking interviews. So, on the morning of the assembly’s opening day, Tuesday, January 15, Brother Franz, accompanied by this servant, went to two radio stations for engagements. The first one, DZFM (The People’s Station), is owned by the Philippine government. The program director was very friendly. Despite not feeling too well he graciously kept his appointment for the interview. He even canceled a thirty-minute paid program over the radio in order to accommodate the vice-president of the Watch Tower Society. The half-hour interview was “right off the cuff” and was broadcast direct from the studio. The program director was pleased with the information of public interest that Brother Franz gave in replies to many questions, especially the stand of Jehovah’s witnesses toward godless communism. The Philippine Islands have no diplomatic relations with the Soviet government of Russia....
For the evening’s features the crowd increased appreciably, from 5,768 in the afternoon to 6,353 now. The vice-president’s talk to them on backing up Jehovah’s visible organization proved to be most timely as well as giving them a viewpoint many had not had previously. This gave them a basis for better understanding and more fully appreciating the climactic feature that followed, the presentation of the special resolution, which, since early last summer, had been undergoing adoption by assemblies of Jehovah’s witnesses around the globe. The matter, presented first in English, was translated simultaneously by interpreters to the speaker’s right and left into Ilocano and Tagalog. When the speaker raised his hand for the vote to be expressed upon the motion before the assembled 6,353, there was enthusiastic applause with the viva voce adoption of this courageous, forthright resolution against Communist persecution,...
The summary of the previous day’s program, especially the special resolution against communism, was presented at those dialect meetings.This goes against everything they claim about being neutral.
Someone over at Reddit had started a thread saying that they could not access a 1957 article on voting on their version of the Watchtowers library on CD.
They no full well why the Russian Government has serious problems about their organization and are responsible for inciting persecution in the past. It may well explain their continued ban in China.
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ExJW responsible for calling the police at the Warwick protest, NOT Watchtower
by Diogenesister inaccording to the great apostate, who spent time with police officers at the protest, they informed him that it was not watchtower who called the police in but another exjw who briefly attended the protest and subsequently disapproved of the protesters methods...claiming they were being "violent".. i find this very difficult to understand.
anyone who saw the bravery of the women who stood up in the kingdom hall and told the story of their abuse and rape could not fail to feel compassion and offer their support.. i know there are posters on this forum who disagree with me.they worry that such protests play into watchtowers "persecution" complex, and naturally i understand their position.. but really, how long do we have to fear their power over their members, and through their members, us.. many jw's simply do not know the extent of the paedophile problem,.they do not know about malawi, the un, the bloodless surgery guinea pig deaths ( thank you orphan crow), the suicides....i simply don't believe that protests don't work....if there are enough of them, and they are organized, and most of all if we are united...we shall make a difference, and that difference may be your loved one.. https://youtu.be/ffhr9onbdrk.
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I wonder if this was the same guy that called the park rangers a few days before saying there was going to be thousands of protesters at that park on the Sunday and was worried about them?
He was so worried he turned up at the park for a short while and has done a You tube protesting the protesters. His YouTube Chanel is Leonardo Bonacci. The video is so boring I had to double the speed to get through it and even then it was too slow.
His views and written comments border on paranoia. He's an ex Bible Student.
It was no surprise to see that he's a mate of Cedars. When cedars did a recent book tour in the USA they caught up and toured Warwick HQ together. I don't think they did anything in the way of activism whilst there.