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  Hotels Deny Watchtower Discount Rates For 2020 Regional Conventions

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the wtbts is not being given special room rates by 2 major hotels at the long beach convention center area for the upcoming 2020 regional conventions & wt is t'd off.

  letters are being read in surrounding circuits and congregations.

  apparently wt is afraid that other hotels are going to blackball them as well.. has anyone else heard this?

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  It's not surprising. It is a common practice for Hotels to increase prices when there is a higher demand for rooms.
  
  
  
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  The jw builders choir omg

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  seems like the genesis song jesus he knows me.. g.. https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/?applanguage=e#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/pub-jwb_201910_12_video.

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  They sing that their deliverance is near but spend millions on construction and millions of hours working on construction, their message is always mixed.
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  latest WT, advice for Bible Studies

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  our goal is to help our bible student to grow spiritually.. .

  as his love for jehovah grows, however, he will likely begin to think about how he can help others, including those who are already part of the congregation.

  (matt.

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  Blondie - I wonder how much that jw donated himself.

  A clever ploy by the Governing Body, by getting the JWs to ask their bible studies to donate, it will probably guilt them into donating more themselves.
  

  We've seen JW children being told to donate, giving up their ice cream money and raiding their piggy banks. Now they're aiming at Bible studies.

  I wonder how long it will be before we see this scenario acted on video.
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  Boys pre-teen sexuality / erections.? Why ? If only for procreation ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. social
  2. family

  this has been a bug bear my whole life i think and not really sure how to address it as nobody else ever seems to do so.. and it relates to the question if god really created humans .

  he did a shithouse job in this regard.. i can`t speak for females this is entirely a male thing.

  from my perspective.. male adolescents at a very ,very young age , babies , get erections periodically and it has nothing to do with sexual fantasies ,because they don`t even have an awareness of sex between a male and a female at this time.. and it is second inbuilt nature to masturbate to relieve, get rid of the erection .

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  hey are very valid points that you raise (ha ha) Smiddy. The Watchtower is wrong about their teachings on masturbation and it's a powerful tool that they use for control. They know it too, otherwise they would make it a df offence.
  
  You don't say how old this bloke was but most people wouldn't even be looking 'down there'. You sure told him where to go though and language like that from an 11/12 year old back then wouldn't have been expected. Sometimes bad language can be very useful in situations. And people wonder why there were 'gay bashers' around in those days.
  
  The Watchtower is also wrong when they try to blame a child for being caught up in sexual encounters. It's very difficult for a child to properly comprehend what is going on and how to deal with threatening or seducing behavior.
  
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  January 2020 Watchtower - Dogma being force-fed yet again as "truth"!

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if the wording & context of a scripture is dismissed at the outset, then every statement and assumption which follows is implicititly false.

  in the very first study article, the gibbering body continues to indoctrinate the sheeple to accept that over 500 people met jesus on the mountain - despite the blatant fact that 1 corinthians 15:6 says absolutely nothing about the 500 people being anywhere near galilee!

  (matthew 28:16-20) however, the 11 disciples went to galʹi·lee to the mountain where jesus had arranged for them (the 11 disciples) to meet.

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  btlc - Same work as Jesus outlined, by omiting and denying his words how to baptize disciples? Sure.
  
  

  
  From the Watchtower Jan 2020

  Nearly 300,000 people each year get baptized as Jehovah’s Witnesses and become disciples of Jesus Christ!

  
  They admit that they are baptizing them as JW's and not in the name of 'the father, the son and the HS.

  
  
  
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  Very weird "orb" experience last night....and i don't believe in paranormal

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i got this night vision/security camera.

  wyze is the brand.

  this only happened once last night.

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  Thanks, I've watched Youtubes where people are filming in very dusty places and it's amazing to see all the dust orbs flying about.
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  Very weird "orb" experience last night....and i don't believe in paranormal

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i got this night vision/security camera.

  wyze is the brand.

  this only happened once last night.

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  Can you post a still on here?
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  January 2020 Watchtower - the anointed

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it's very odd that the jan. 2020 watchtower was nearly 3 weeks later than normal.

  another odd thing about this watchtower is that it has two articles (about the anointed) that is very similar to two articles they wrote only four years earlier.the fact that they have even reprinted two articles that are only four years old suggests that they continue to have numerous problems surrounding their teaching's of the anointed and problems with those claiming to be anointed.here are a few of the differences between both the 2016 and 2020 articles -2016 watchtower states.

  anointed christians need to be taught by jehovah just like everyone else.. 2020 watchtower statesof course, anointed christians need to be taught by jehovah through the congregation just like everyone else.. four years ago, they acknowledged that it was only jehovah who were teaching the anointed but the newest watchtower now states that it is through the congregation.watchtower 2016 states there will be 144,000 ruling with jesus in heaven.

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  Waton - When I looked last (many years ago) the heavenly resurrection started in 1918, after the heavens were clean enough, after Satan gone. close to the appointment of wt inc as the F&DS.
  

  
  That was their old teachings as found in the following -

  Revelation - It's grand climax at hand
  "All the evidence indicates that this heavenly resurrection began in 1918, after Jesus' enthronement in 1914 and his riding forth to start his kingly conquest by cleansing the heavens of Satan and his demons." Revelation, Its Grand Climax At Hand! p. 103
  

  
  

  From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained
  One of the many enlightening truths that God now gave his witnesses was about the members of God's spiritual nation who had died physically. This was in 1927. In that year the witnesses understood that the dead spiritual Israelites had been raised in 1918 to life in heaven with Christ Jesus. It was an invisible resurrection, of course.

  
  The latest teaching finds them being unsure about date and they don't commit to any date -
  
  

  Watchtower 07 1/1
  That would indicate that the first resurrection began sometime between 1914 and 1935. Can we be more precise?
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  January 2020 Watchtower - the anointed

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it's very odd that the jan. 2020 watchtower was nearly 3 weeks later than normal.

  another odd thing about this watchtower is that it has two articles (about the anointed) that is very similar to two articles they wrote only four years earlier.the fact that they have even reprinted two articles that are only four years old suggests that they continue to have numerous problems surrounding their teaching's of the anointed and problems with those claiming to be anointed.here are a few of the differences between both the 2016 and 2020 articles -2016 watchtower states.

  anointed christians need to be taught by jehovah just like everyone else.. 2020 watchtower statesof course, anointed christians need to be taught by jehovah through the congregation just like everyone else.. four years ago, they acknowledged that it was only jehovah who were teaching the anointed but the newest watchtower now states that it is through the congregation.watchtower 2016 states there will be 144,000 ruling with jesus in heaven.

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  Thanks Atlantis
  
  
  
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  January 2020 Watchtower - the anointed

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it's very odd that the jan. 2020 watchtower was nearly 3 weeks later than normal.

  another odd thing about this watchtower is that it has two articles (about the anointed) that is very similar to two articles they wrote only four years earlier.the fact that they have even reprinted two articles that are only four years old suggests that they continue to have numerous problems surrounding their teaching's of the anointed and problems with those claiming to be anointed.here are a few of the differences between both the 2016 and 2020 articles -2016 watchtower states.

  anointed christians need to be taught by jehovah just like everyone else.. 2020 watchtower statesof course, anointed christians need to be taught by jehovah through the congregation just like everyone else.. four years ago, they acknowledged that it was only jehovah who were teaching the anointed but the newest watchtower now states that it is through the congregation.watchtower 2016 states there will be 144,000 ruling with jesus in heaven.

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  It's very odd that the Jan. 2020 Watchtower was nearly 3 weeks later than normal.
  
  Another odd thing about this Watchtower is that it has two articles (about the anointed) that is very similar to two articles they wrote only four years earlier.
  
  The fact that they have even reprinted two articles that are only four years old suggests that they continue to have numerous problems surrounding their teaching's of the anointed and problems with those claiming to be anointed.
  
  Here are a few of the differences between both the 2016 and 2020 articles -
  
  2016 Watchtower states

  Anointed Christians need to be taught by Jehovah just like everyone else.

  
  2020 Watchtower states
  
  

  Of course, anointed Christians need to be taught by Jehovah through the congregation just like everyone else.

  
  Four years ago, they acknowledged that it was only Jehovah who were teaching the anointed but the newest Watchtower now states that it is through the congregation.
  
  Watchtower 2016 states
  
  

  There will be 144,000 ruling with Jesus in heaven. But the Bible speaks of “the remaining ones” of the anointed who are still on earth in this time of the end. (Revelation 12:17) So most of the 144,000 have already died and are in heaven.
  

  
  They've left this out in the 2020 Watchtower which is interesting because they don't know exactly when the 144,000 began to be resurrected.
  
  Watchtower 2016 states
  
  

  If we do not treat anointed ones as more important than others, we also protect ourselves. How? The Bible tells us that there might be “false brothers” in the congregation who may even say that they are anointed. (Galatians 2:4, 5; 1 John 2:19) Also, some anointed ones might not stay faithful.
  

  
  Watchtower 2020 states
  
  

  If we do not treat anointed ones as more important than others, we also protect ourselves. How? The Bible tells us that some anointed ones might not remain faithful.

  
  The thought that there may be anointed "false brothers" in the congregation has been removed. No doubt the GB has decided that putting ideas like that in the minds of followers is not such a good idea.
  
  These are not heart warming articles but instead, they are judgmental and tell both the so called anointed JW and the 'other sheep' exactly what they should be feeling, thinking, how to treat one another and what they are allowed to talk about and not talk about.