Posts by Listener

no wonder they have a very high turnover of dis-satisfied members , a high number of suicides compared to mainstream religions , a high number of phsychological disorders among members .. totalitarianism is something we normally associate with political regimes , communism , fascism ,etc.etc.. it should also apply to reigions that have "high control "strategys , that keep the members cocooned in their beleif system.. discouraging members from getting information outside their control.

as though information is wrong .

you should be able ,using your god given brain to decide whether information you receive is beneficial or not .

Listener

I was just watching a public talk given by Judge Rutherford (1938 Face the Facts). He was going on about the World Governments becoming Totalatarian and how Britain and America would follow suit. He mentioned the idea so many times throughout his talk that I checked Wikipedia to get a better idea of what this meant.

When i looked it up I was surprised to see how the description actually describes the WT religion. As the name suggests it is the idea of taking total control over the persons life, including social and private aspects, including the way they think.

They have been so clever in warning it's followers of the dangers of such rulership and in the meantime do that very thing themselves.

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Old Rutherford vinyl records...

by Sam87 in

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friends

my mother found some old jw records a couple of months ago, they apparently were what the dubs used to use when they were witnessing, theyd go out with a record player and play these records to people to preach to them.. just wondering if anyone else has any of these?

im guessing theres probly not that many of them around, i think i have about 6 or so of them and they are quite old, (im at work at the moment so i cant really tell you any more about them) i was thinking that i mite sell them on ebay, maybe ill get a bit of cash for them.. .

sam87..

Listener

My father had some and I tried to listen to them when I was younger. I think you need a 33RPM player and record players even in the 60s had this speed.

The records had been so well used that it was very difficult to understand what was being said but Rutherford's voice just gave me the creeps.

It would be great if you could record and share them

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Bro at table set up wouldn't answer question (but still counted his time)

by ShirleyW in

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friends

i asked when they would start offering gray bible and she said two weeks, then the only bro at the table saw my headphones in my hand started in by saying " i see you're plugged in, do you have a smartphone?

to which i said no, because i just had a feeling that must've been a new angle to tell folks about the new bible app.the sis said they would start offering it in two weeks the bro goes on to mention that you can download the app and you get the bible in five different languages and mentions some other stuff you can do onthe app, i said all this technology reminds when the society admonished you all to stay away from the interenet about 25 years ago .

you should've seen his face, he was smiling but was thinking "how does show know" behind that smile.

Listener

You obviously don't find it offensive Barrold Bonds because you've just done the same thing but you've gone one step further by breaking this boards guidelines and labelling someone by a very nasty name.

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Stands For True Worship. I am turning myself in......

by DATA-DOG in

just answer this question in an honest and unbiased way, free from any circuitous reasoning or speculation.

if you do so, i swear to my heavenly father, that i will call the elders tonight and turn myself in.

any active jw may answer this question.

Listener

"However what’s noteworthy is their willingness to adjust their understanding when absolutely necessary."

If it becomes absolutely necessary there can be no willingness about it.

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Watchtower Eliminated the "Evil Slave Class" according to E-Watchman? True or False?

by AuntConnie in

looking for information to make the july 15th, 2013 watchtower make sense, i came across the e-watchman website.

is he a jehovah's witnesses waiting for the reformation or a apostate like all of us on jwn?.

his post on the "faithful and evil slave" is very enlightening, according to his question he received from his readers, the watchtower said "there is no evil slave class" to eliminate fear the evil slave is working at bethel!.

Listener

Rather than letting Jesus decide whether they are the FDS or the evil slave they have judged themselves and found that they are none other than the FDS.

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Did Jehovah's Witnesses Plagiarize HWA's False Prophecy Of 1975?

by Bangalore in

did jehovah's witnesses plagiarize hwa's false prophecy of 1975?.

http://livingarmstrongism.blogspot.com/2013/10/did-jehovahs-witnesses-plagiarize-hwas.html.

bangalore.

Listener

The JWs repeated their own history. They originally taught that the 6,000 years since Adam's creation ended around 1873/4. Then in the 1950s they came up with the new light that they were 100 years out and that Adam's 6,000 years would now end in 1975.

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Some JWs overseas use a false name to evade the authorities. Is this a common practice?

by dropoffyourkeylee in

i had posted this a few days ago and got no response, then i realized i had messed up the title, so here goes again;.

i have learned from a credible source that jws from the us have recently gone to morocco to witness, where the work is under ban, and while living there have lived under assumed names.

this is (according to my source) under the direction of the branch (i'm not sure which branch it would be, but i would guess france).

Listener

Data Dog "There are other ways of preaching without breaking the law."

There is no need to put JWs under unnecessary risks.

If the WTBTS were to come up with other ways of carrying out the preaching work there would be no one left to peddle their publications door to door.

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Some JWs overseas use a false name to evade the authorities. Is this a common practice?

by dropoffyourkeylee in

i had posted this a few days ago and got no response, then i realized i had messed up the title, so here goes again;.

i have learned from a credible source that jws from the us have recently gone to morocco to witness, where the work is under ban, and while living there have lived under assumed names.

this is (according to my source) under the direction of the branch (i'm not sure which branch it would be, but i would guess france).

Listener

The WTBTS have had no problems in directing their followers to break the law when it comes to their preaching work.

They openly brag about bringing in banned publications (not just bibles) into certain countries, for instance.

Emeth it is sad that Rutherford put JWs in such a position in Germany and the fools still stood by him and his organization.