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  i'm leaving this site forever

  by stan livedeath in

  1. social
  2. humour

  as the title says--i'm out of here for good.. the site is full of atheists, communists, 7th day adventists, creationists, believers, deceivers, receivers, football supporters,.

  dodgy types, cantleave---and assorted wankers.. so no place for me--because i'm none of the above so dont fit in.

  so--this is goodbye forever my friends--its been almost average knowing you.

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  Listener

  Awww Stan, I've been known to knit, surely we've got something in common.
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  JWs Demonstrating against the Demonstrators

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the organization never ceases to amaze.you've got to see this video for yourself so i won't say much about it.

  i wonder if this practice has been endorsed and sanctioned by the governing body and if we will see more of it in the future.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbuxbx1ktci.

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  Listener

  The organization never ceases to amaze.
  
  You've got to see this video for yourself so I won't say much about it. I wonder if this practice has been endorsed and sanctioned by the Governing Body and if we will see more of it in the future.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBUXBX1KTCI
  
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  Use Pokemon Go to mess with Kingdomhalls if they are training centers :D

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

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  I agree Stuckinarut. A lot of these guys love playing computer games and PokemonGo gets them out and about and socialising.
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  Chelmsford is green-lighted

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like chelmsford is going ahead after all.

  here is the text of a letter to be read out this week:.

  to all congregations in britain and irelandre: branch relocation project updatedear brothers:we rejoice to inform you that in june of this year, the governing body gave approval for thebritain branch to relocate to new facilities that will be constructed just south of chelmsford.

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  Listener

  This building, which does not even exist, already has Jehovah's blessing and praise, now and into the future. How would they even know this? No doubt, since the GB have given their approval, it equates to being the same as God's approval.
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  The story of a secret Apostate Anointed

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the remarkable sister pettifog.

  this morning i arrived on my bicycle at the local starbucks early, before the intensity of the texas sun boiled to full blaze rendering me a soggy, wrung out mess.. i took up my perch on the outdoor patio in the shade, eager to work on my book of short stories.

  this will be my 3rd book and i’ve been enjoying the process daily.. .

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  Terry, or should I say Randolph, it's not Sister Petticoat that is the amazing person, it's you.
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  Seeking support ... Where can a Christian go

  by Sevan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey all, .

  so i recently posted for the first time and introduced myself.. i have been spending time reading various posts.

  some informative, some not so much.. since i've been reading on here, i've read a lot from atheists.

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  Listener

  You're not the first person who says this site is hostile towards believers. I've been here for six years and don't have a problem with it. I'll deliberately avoid threads that discuss atheism because I don't think it is beneficial for anyone me to get into a debate about it.
  
  The only time I see any real hostility is when a poster comes on here trying to preach their religion. It is not accepted well by just about everyone on here. I think it would be correct to say that having once been fooled into believing the JW religion no one wants to be caught out like that again.
  
  Over the time that I have been here I've seen the dynamics change significantly. There have been long periods of time where a lot of attention has been given to understanding the real meaning of bible texts as opposed to JW teachings, personally I really enjoy that and learn a lot from different ideas. Other times, the main focus appears to be on people and their personal problems as ex JWs. Then you have a place like reddit where there is a lot of younger ones and their focus is different but, like here, there is a great deal of support for individuals. It's not that we don't get younger ones here but the dynamics are different and more suitable to some than others.
  
  You will notice, when all is said and done, that there are many people on this forum, regardless of their beliefs, who are happy to give advice and support to others. They don't see things as just being about themselves, they understand the problems that exist and are happy to assist others. In the past, many ex JWs end up returning to the religion, not to draw closer to God or because they believe everything the GB says but because they miss the companionship. I for one am very grateful that we can have a place like this. It helps to confirm our doubts, informs us of organizational procedures and policies along with their repercussions and helps to see the manipulation and control.
  
  I do wonder what sort of support you would like, you state 'moral support' but you can get that regardless of whether someone is an atheist or not. Do you mean that you are particularly looking for somewhere where you can share scriptures with others and discuss religion in a supportive manner or a place where you feel you are among people that hold the same biblical moral values as yourself? There is certainly scriptures that support these and even though this place may not be able to properly fulfill these it doesn't mean that you can't find some benefit for being here or even a desire to do like others and give support to individuals in need.
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  JWs on Jeopardy! . . . really this time.

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know there was a crazy false urban legend years ago about jeopardy saying the nwt was the most accurate bible, but on tonights episode they really were mentioned.

  the clue went something like 'this religion was started by charles taze russell and publishes the watchtower'.

  a player buzzed in a she said 'who are the jehovah's witnesses'.

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  Did the player who buzzed in and gave the correct answer go on to win? They probably deserved to since most people would have no idea about this fact even after billions of hours have been spent by JWs in door to door work trying to make themselves know.
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  How the Kevin Class started...

  by Stumpy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djtu_mozj5y.

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  Amazing, the organization always says that they choose their words very carefully. There's got to be some awake ones in the writing department.

  These are the lyrics to the song

  Dragged in his fathers footsteps
  Onto other people's doorsteps
  To shoe-gaze through another afternoon
  He's well turned out, his pants are pressed
  He's dripping in his Sunday best
  As the sun beats down in time to the sound
  Of his father going on about the problems of the world
  While Kevin stands uncounted at the door
  Will Kevin get to heaven any soner?
  Will father ever bother looking down?
  When he sees the light
  He sees the light
  There must be empty chairs in the Kingdom hall
  What with the summer holidays the flock is getting small
  So he's marching 'round my neighbourhood
  With a briefcase and a boy
  But Kevin doesn't share the Soldier's Joy
  I could see right through him
  And the lawn was needing mowed
  I closed the door and watched him turn to go
  When he sees the light
  He sees the light
  He sees such light
  I want him to change for me

  
  
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  Elders intervening in family issues

  by gatorguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone know of any good scriptures or reference articles that i can show an elder to hopefully have him stop intervening in a family issue?

  i already told him that i am the head of the house and that they're usurping my headship but they didn't seem to get the message.

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  Gatorguy, here is one article that may help -
  
  Watchtower 78 5/1
  

  14 All the elders should appreciate their position in relation to the other brothers and sisters in the congregation. They are not spiritual bosses or spiritual policemen. They do not have to pry into the lives of other members of the congregation or concern themselves with the personal problems of every brother and sister. The brothers and sisters are dedicated to Jehovah God and usually can work out their salvation in integrity. The elders are available to help when they are called upon, but they should not go beyond proper limits. (Phil. 2:12, 13) The other brothers and sisters have rights and privileges, and so the elders must respect their free moral agency. It is not the business of the elders at their meetings to review all the good points and all the bad points of every publisher. About the only time that it would be appropriate to do this would be when qualifications of brothers to serve as elders or ministerial servants are being considered, or when there is a serious problem involving one in the congregation that calls for careful scrutiny of that particular person.

  Phil 2:12,13 statesConsequently, my beloved ones, in the way that YOU have always obeyed, not during my presence only, but now much more readily during my absence, keep working out YOUR own salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for God is the one that, for the sake of [his] good pleasure, is acting within YOU in order for YOU both to will and to act
  
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  Part One of what could be a long introduction

  by LifesNotOver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello - let me try to explain.

  a couple of months ago or so i joined this forum, then shortly after checked out jwrecovery which seemed a better fit personally and joined them.

  started to feel comfortable there and they closed, and i pouted for a while.

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  Listener

  Welcome Lifesnotover, I hope you become more comfortable on this site. Use your experience gained from being on JWrecovery and I am sure you will find it beneficial to be here.