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December 31, 2016 BOE Re: 2017 Annual Meeting and Warwick/Wallkill Dedication Program

by wifibandit in

december 31, 2016 to all congregations in the united states branch territory re: 2017 annual meeting and warwick/wallkill dedication program.

Listener

Is this really the good news that Jesus wanted preached throughout the earth and with Armageddon so near?

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beginning with the july 15th 2011 edition of the watchtower, the society are producing a simplified version of the study copy.. this is apparantly for the many people whose first language is not english, and yet they live in a predominantly englsih speaking county.. the normal study edition will still be produced but it looks like the cong.

will be able to ask for a supply of the simplified version each month.. this simplified version can be downloaded from the watchtower site.. http://www.jw.org/index.html.

Listener

Therefore, the last simplified edition in French, Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish will be the issue of May 2017. In the future, simpler language will be used in the
study edition of The Watchtower.

I don't think they have been very clear here. I think they are saying that for those languages specifically mentioned the only edition they will print is the simplified edition but instead of calling it simplified they will just refer to it as the study edition.

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Update to UK “Child Safeguarding Policy”

by wifibandit in

a known poster on this site (anon) says:.

i have just received a text from an elder i've known for decades in my circuit who has some sympathy for my feelings and who is aware of the arc, the uk charity commission, etc., etc.

here it is verbatim, and my reply.

Listener

A report to the police or other appropriate authorities will be made immediately by the congregation elders if it is determined that a child is still at risk.

Do they mean any child or just the child that has already been abused? I think they mean the child that has already been abused but if taken to task on that policy they would probably claim that it means any child.

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The Governing Body are doubling down on dogma!

by DATA-DOG in

in case you were wondering if the governing body we're going to become kinder and gentler, the answer is a big "no!!!

in the current study edition of the wt magazine, the sheeple are reminded of some very important key points.

1) god has an organization ( corporation ) that you must respect.. 2) only the gb/faithful slave can dispense spiritual food and only the gb/faithful slave can interpret the bible.. 3) individual dubs absolutely cannot learn "truth" on their own.. 4) god requires "unity of doctrine.

Listener

Just to add another spanner into their works is the January 2017 broadcast. It's mostly about the bible and advertising their 'Bible Tour' at Warwick in a few months.

The Broadcast goes into detail about how the Bible has been preserved over the centuries and commend those men that died faithful to Jehovah under extreme persecution and their determination to make the Bible available to the masses.

Yet, if we were to go along with their theory, why is it only at the end of the 19th Century that individuals are no longer able to understand the Bible on their own and need an organization to do it for them?

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The Governing Body are doubling down on dogma!

by DATA-DOG in

in case you were wondering if the governing body we're going to become kinder and gentler, the answer is a big "no!!!

in the current study edition of the wt magazine, the sheeple are reminded of some very important key points.

1) god has an organization ( corporation ) that you must respect.. 2) only the gb/faithful slave can dispense spiritual food and only the gb/faithful slave can interpret the bible.. 3) individual dubs absolutely cannot learn "truth" on their own.. 4) god requires "unity of doctrine.

Listener

It's the November 2016 Watchtower. They make this claim on page 9 para 6

Living without the help of God’s organization and his standards would result in unhappiness and misery.

Another very bold claim, stating that in order not to have unhappiness and misery we need the help of JW dot org.

Then there is this statement para 9 page 16

Some may feel that they can interpret the Bible on their own. However, Jesus has appointed the ‘faithful slave’ to be the only channel for dispensing spiritual food

The question for that para is "9. What is the only channel that is being used to help us understand God’s Word? "

YouTuber Michael Felker asks whether it's really true that someone cannot interpret the Bible on their own and which parts can he interpret on his own and which parts can't he because it can't be denied that there are parts of the Bible that can be read and understood by the individual.

Regarding para 10 and the mention of Jehovah's chariot Youtuber Michael then asks how do we know when the org. makes changes that they are moving closer to the truth or further away? The measuring stick is always what is put in place by the GB. So if the org. goes up or down so does the JW and the individual therefore has no way to go except up or down along with the GB. Which means going closer to the truth or away from the truth. How can they say that Jehovah is behind that development? The problem is that they are blaming Jehovah for the decisions of the leaders.

For more discussion on this November Watchtower here is his video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7-kh7nB7ng

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AND STILL NO RELEASE OF THE 2017 JW YEARBOOK

by steve2 in

here we are on the cusp of the new year, and the 2017 yearbook of jws has still not been released.

jw.org continues to feature the 2016 yearbook in its list of main publications.

in previous years, the upcoming yearbook's annual report on jws was released in november for the january 1st then the feb 1st watchtower, then earlier in december when it was only featured in the yearbook, then more recently with a couple of days of december 25th.

Listener

For what it's worth, these are some figures that were reported on JWTalk. The person reporting them is a 'gold' member and said that the figures came from the Bethel in Germany.

Branches of Jehovah’s Witnesses: 89

Total Congregations: 119.485

Number of Lands Reporting: 240

Publishers: 8.340.847

Worldwide Memorial Attendance: 20.085.142

Memorial Partakers Worldwide: 18.013

Total Number Baptized: 264.535

Pioneer Publishers: 1.128.697

Home Bible Studies: 10.115.264

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1 bilion property revenue since august 2016 and still they have not enough

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

read in the new york business review that jw.org made 1 bilion property revenue since august 2016.. unbelievable, isn't it?

they are one of the richest religion organizations in cash flow, for sure.. the co asked us this morning to "overthink wat we can share, to support the work and make jehovah happy".. g..

Listener

It sure makes them look greedy by continually asking for more money.

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AND STILL NO RELEASE OF THE 2017 JW YEARBOOK

by steve2 in

here we are on the cusp of the new year, and the 2017 yearbook of jws has still not been released.

jw.org continues to feature the 2016 yearbook in its list of main publications.

in previous years, the upcoming yearbook's annual report on jws was released in november for the january 1st then the feb 1st watchtower, then earlier in december when it was only featured in the yearbook, then more recently with a couple of days of december 25th.

Listener

WT - The most recent published report is for the year 1995, and it shows 28 more partakers than in the preceding year though the ratio of partakers to those attending did actually drop.

Thanks for those figures Darksplver, even that line of thinking is not working out for them.

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Kingdom Hall Renovation Question: Who Pays?

by breakfast of champions in

so last night it was announced at the local hall that the ldc had decided against building a new hall, and that the existing hall would be "renovated.

the prospect of a new hall has been dangled before this congregation for at least 10 years now.

in fact, the congregation had already purchased property, had approval from the rbc for a new hall.

Listener

Going by that chart, maintenance and repair works are the responsibility of the congregation and IF renovations are approved the org. has developed a clever system. They say they will pay but the congregation must set up a contribution box. Therefore many will consider the onus is on them to finance the project (effectively paying twice).

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2016-12-29 BOE Re: Donations in Support of Kingdom Interests Worldwide

by wifibandit in

december 29, 2016 to all congregations re: donations in support of kingdom interests worldwide.

Listener

Is it too much effort to write ' Dear Brothers and Sisters' rather than just 'Dear Brothers'?