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  Books are not dying out and this is not the reason for the WT turning to tablets

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. bible

  there's a popular misconception that books in general are in terminal decline, that this is the reason the wt organisation has turned to tablets instead of print, and this in turn has created a financial crisis for the organisation which traditionally relied upon publishing books for income.

  this is wrong on a number of levels.

  firstly physical books are not in terminal decline, they are as popular as ever with consumers.

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  I've been hearing that physical books are making a return and are being preferred over online books, even amongst youngsters.
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  Tight pants Tony III (closeted gay anointed GB member) is on the July briadcast

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  such fun.

  what gems will this plump little oddball be ranting about this time?.

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  Where there are Halls that can seat 200 people, they will have congregations of 160 people.
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  Jehovah Banned in Singapore

  by EverApostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  singapore is a tiny, beautiful and economically powerful country in se asia.

  all religions are allowed there except the jehaovah's witnesses and another christian denomination.

  jws are banned because they don’t serve the military and all singapore citizens are required to serve in the military for a while.. the jws are banned in singapore since 1972. .

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  Singapore is one of our favourite countries to visit. We've been there a number of times. We felt very safe and clean. It would be had to find a more modern city and it has a number of excellent attractions. The only downside is that accommodation is expensive.

  A few years ago, hubby and I were walking through a park and we came across an elderly Singaporean couple who were sitting on the grass listening to a taped talk. I wondered if it was there way of public preaching.
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  Mystery Letters of "Human Apostate" talk 2013 summer convention and its connection to Lev.5:1

  by Bill Covert in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  greetings from redding calif. my name is bill covert.

  i am one of those viet nam war felons for having to refuse communtiy service in lieu of military induction per direct instructions from ny, so i have been around for a while.

  i am the writer of the letters mentioned in the human apostate talk of the 2013 conventions.

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  Bill Covert, it's good to hear that your son is okay.

  I don't see why you should be spending so much money in getting your story posted. These cases should all have been reported to the police.
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  Hypocrisy of JW.org at this week's book study

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a paragraph taken from this week's study of 'gods kingdom rules.

  15 jehovah’s people remain loyal to the messianic kingdom not only by refusing military service but also by respectfully declining to join in nationalistic ceremonies.

  especially since the outbreak of world war ii, a wave of nationalistic fervor has swept the globe.

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  It's only the Watchtower that decided saluting the flag or singing a national anthem was taking a vow of allegience. How is it even a vow? On top of this they then equate it as a form of worship or devotion. It is neither but because they say it is it becomes wrong. A JW is now under the impression that anyone saluting a flag is worshipping it and are judging that person as doing something wrong when they aren't.
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  "Child abuse is abhorrent to us."

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  birds of a feather flock together.

  australian cardinal george pell: "they are false.

  the whole idea of sexual abuse is abhorrent to me.".

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  When they say "child abuse is abhorrent to us", who exactly is this 'us'? It can't be their organisation because there are those within it who practice it.
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  Watchtower teaches that Jesus dying on the stake is no longer certain

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower has held for many years that jesus died on a stake and held strongly to this teaching.

  w 1951 3/15 the above agrees with the new world translation of the christian greek scriptures in its appendix, page 769, in saying that the instrument upon which jesus was nailed was a stake without a crossbeam, and not the religiously represented “cross”; and that the greek word used for that instrument in ancient time meant a “stake” and not the conventional religious cross.

  they are no longer certain on this point.

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  The Watchtower has held for many years that Jesus died on a stake and held strongly to this teaching.
  
  

  W 1951 3/15 The above agrees with the New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures in its Appendix, page 769, in saying that the instrument upon which Jesus was nailed was a stake without a crossbeam, and not the religiously represented “cross”; and that the Greek word used for that instrument in ancient time meant a “stake” and not the conventional religious cross

  They are no longer certain on this point. This is from their website on the question of whether Jesus died on a cross or stake
  
  

  Many view the cross as the most common symbol of Christianity. However, the Bible does not describe the instrument of Jesus’ death, so no one can know its shape with absolute certainty.

  
  This is an issue that was strongly upheld when going out in field work. So many arguments would have been prevented if we could have said that there is no absolute certainty on the matter.
  
  
  
  
  
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  Suggestions for a JW Apostate logo

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if you can't upload one vote on others suggestions.

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  I loved this TTATT logo, I don't know where it comes from. It's better seen at the .58 mark.
  
  https://youtu.be/2nb0Z3ERLVw?t=58
  
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  JW Properties in Russia - 1.9 billion rubles

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  according to victor yarofeyev, who publishes a blog for a radio station in moscow, echo of moscow, the total value of the jw properties in russia is 1.9 billion rubles.

  which converts to $31,956,955 us.

  almost 32 million dollars.. yarofeyev speculates that, if the supreme court refuses the org's appeal on july 17, some of the jw's properties may prove difficult for the russian government to seize.

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  If the prosecutor proves that the transactions were concluded in order to avoid enforcement of the judgment, and not for gratuitous gift, the State will be able to assign the property. "

  
  The Watchtower organization is happy to participate in criminal activity.
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  My parents found out

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so in my last post i talked about how i had told my younger siblings how i didn't plan to get baptized or ever be a witness.

  i thought i could trust them but i guess i was wrong, they're just kids after all.

  my oldest brother (who's 11) told on me today.

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  I guess he got mad because lately he's been wanting to get baptized and I told him he should wait a few years. The only reason I told him this was because I asked him why he wanted to do it and he couldn't come up with a reason. All he said was "Idk, I just want to get baptized" over and over. He's just like my sister, he does whatever he's told.

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  You're right to get mad and even madder if your parents let him. It's dead obvious he doesn't have the personal capacity to make this life altering decision. Tight pants Tony and others are to blame for this.
  
  As to your parents wanting you to 'fake' your interest, you've really got to wonder where their mind is in all of this. Is it possible that one of your parents are just in it to keep the family harmonious?