Xanthippe, when you talk to JWs at their cart ask them for a scripture that backs up their interpretation or is it just something the Governing Body (men) made up. They can't answer that and they will try to take the conversation in a different direction.
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Question- do JWs use the term overlapping generations
by Xanthippe in... or is that one of our memes?
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Two JW`s called at my door today
by smiddy3 inthe wife and i were expecting a health worker to call at our door 10:30 this morning and about 10;35 two women appeared at our door so i opened up thinking they were who i expected ,so i was take back a bit being caught off guard when they identified themselves as doing a bible work.. this is just the gist of what took place & not a word for word conversation.. a woman about in her fifties her companion about her twenties.the older woman did most of the talking as she read to me the scripture from her phone " in the last days critical times hard to deal with...etc.etc.and she went back and emphasised that we were living in the last days because of what that scripture said.. i made the comment that the scripture just about sums up human history in any given time.then i went on to say that this day and age is the best time in human history overall given the advances in technology ,medical procedures ,the overall standard of living being higher and so on .but they insisted on we were living in the last days.then i said different religions have been claiming that for the past couple hundred years.. then to throw them a curve ball i asked if they were mormons ?
oh no we are jehovah`s witnesses.had i been prepared for them and not caught out unawares i would have taken a different tact.i then asked the older woman how long she has been a witness and she said 36 years so i then said to her you must have seen a lot of changes in your religion during that time which she agreed with.
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Some JWs only consider themselves as such from the day of baptism. The older lady has probably been indoctrinated her whole life.
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In Sydney, and ex jw gathering, with an apperance by Angus Stewart!
by nonjwspouse inthis happened yesterday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pfyty9bs3i.
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He's an a outstanding gentleman. It was relayed back that he has approached the carts on occassions to express his concern. Apparently he was talking to a few of the guys at the gathering for an hour and a half. I really wish that they had caught that on video.
Contrast that with Loyd approaching the speaker towards the end and whispering a reminder to mention the contribution box for donations.
I hope to hear more about their interaction with Angus Stewart.
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Satan Hurled Out in 1914 - Will They Say It Was Never Taught?
by Anna Marina inwbts rewrites/carefully edits their own history.
since 2005, i have been through a lot with with wbts.
recently i came across a suggestions that they will start denying that they ever said satan was hurled out of heaven in 1914.. in my experience, it is one doctrine many ordinary members are clear about - you ask them what supposedly took place in 1914 and they'll say, "satan was hurled out of heaven, therefore world war i started.".
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Anna Marina, they've already taken steps to change this teaching. The Watchtower has a habit of slowly introducing new ideas before committing to a completely different doctrine.
When they released their latest Bible they included a timeline and in this they mention the year 1914. Of particular note, they do not mention Jesus' presence and instead they only include this statementAbout 1914 C.E.
Jesus hurls the serpent, Satan, to the earth, confining him there for a short time.—Revelation 12:7-9, 12.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1001061221They use the word 'about' when mentioning the year 1914 as the time Satan was hurled to earth. Stating that this occurred about 1914 means that they are no longer confident or even teaching that he was hurled down in 1914 as definite year. What they are planning in new doctrine is anyones guess but they have laid the groundwork for it.
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16.000 JWs rebel against Bethel and GB
by Edison Trent insome hot news:.
last weekend was a convention in frankfurt, germany and 11 other locations.
all were connected to the international convention in berlin.. in sum about 94.000 attended.
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Thanks for the video Edison Trent.
The trumpet sure got the crowd going.
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The definition of 'child abuse', do you see the problem here?
by Nathan R. Koppe in👉 tip!
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original public post at https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=649381602193274&id=627052881092813.
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Lv101 I watched that YouTube as well and thought there were some excellent points brought up from the May 2019 Watchtower.
One point being that the Watchtower calls child abuse a plague and another interesting point was how they use both the words sin and crime in reference to child abuse in the article.
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Do You Think Disfellowshipping Is The Worst Thing About Jehovah’s Witnesses?
by minimus inthe longer i’m out the more i feel that disfellowshipping is cruel.
i understand the organization tells parents to not even accept emails or texts from their disfellowshipped children.
while i was a witness they tried to discourage families from association but there was some leeway if it was considered necessary business to interact.
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Just like you can sell your soul to Satan, the Organisation requires that you sell your soul to them and that is the worst thing about it.
It is the result of this that we see individuals willing to shun their own sons and daughters, die because of refusing blood and so on.
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Smurf Girl's Phone Call
by APieceOfShitNamedTate inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrmozm2lo1i .
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She has talked about being used by the organisation as a young girl, including the GB, as an 'automatic writer'. It's crazy stuff.
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2019--June--8--Weekend Meeting--Video--WTBTS-PA
by Atlantis inwatchtower bible and tract society of pa.. weekend meeting-june--8th--2019 speaker announced song at 4 minutes 30 seconds: public talk--is the trinity a scriptural teaching?at 31 minutes 12 seconds--the holy spirit is described as a finger and not on the same plain as jesus and his father.. at 34 minutes 20 seconds--jesus is superior to the holy spirit and jehovah is superior to both.at 35 minutes 20 seconds--public talk ends.. at 35 minutes 40 seconds--song.at 38 minutes 43 seconds--watchtower study.https://we.tl/t-idbbuwjlzi atlantis!
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Drearyweather, I was going by Blondie's comment but I think she was joking. I tell ya, it's hard to know these days what is JW doctrine and what isn't. Just look at their 'this generation' interpretation, that's a real joke.
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2019--June--8--Weekend Meeting--Video--WTBTS-PA
by Atlantis inwatchtower bible and tract society of pa.. weekend meeting-june--8th--2019 speaker announced song at 4 minutes 30 seconds: public talk--is the trinity a scriptural teaching?at 31 minutes 12 seconds--the holy spirit is described as a finger and not on the same plain as jesus and his father.. at 34 minutes 20 seconds--jesus is superior to the holy spirit and jehovah is superior to both.at 35 minutes 20 seconds--public talk ends.. at 35 minutes 40 seconds--song.at 38 minutes 43 seconds--watchtower study.https://we.tl/t-idbbuwjlzi atlantis!
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Drearyweather, are you not just a little surprised that they are talking about Jesus being the thumb of Gods hand?