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  Transparency in Field Service Hours

  by Earnest in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i notice that in the recent instructions for new regular pioneers (2020-08-s-236-e) it lists a number of assignments for which a pioneer can be credited (up to 75) hours in a month.. these include:construction oversight, assembly hall oversight, assembly oversight, and convention oversight, as well as serving as temporary volunteers at bethel, commuter bethelites, remote volunteers, bethel consultants, hospital liaison committee members, patient visitation group members, disaster relief committee members, local design/construction department field representatives and maintenance trainers, and so forth.

  approved assignments also include assisting with kingdom hall construction when such is done at the request of the branch office or its representatives overseeing the project, assisting with pre and post-assembly or convention work, assisting with work at assembly halls, conducting or participating in congregation meetings held in prison, as well as attendance at a theocratic school or class .

  when i was pioneering and doing pre and post-assembly work i was told i could include the time spent working in my monthly report, which i did.

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  Drearyweather quoted fro KM August 81

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  The Society is interested in knowing how much time is spent in proclaiming God’s truths to those who are not dedicated, baptized Witnesses. So time spent in shepherding or other calls made on those who are not strong spiritually and those who have not associated for some time should not be counted if the individual is a baptized Witness. It is a labor of love."

  According to this, it would mean that witnessing was not considered a labor of love, which goes along with the idea that it is a works based religion.

  But why does the Organization want to know how many hours JWs put into preaching but not know how much time their Elders spend on their various duries? They have no way of knowing what a burden they create for many Elders and their families.
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  GB teaching - Gays and Lesbians will be resurrected as Gays and Lesbians

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the final talk of the saturday afternoon online convention is given by lett, sporting a creepy looking combover, which for some reason, looks creepier than normal.

  he talks about how those resurrected will need to come into line with a new moral code otherwise they will be destroyed.

  he uses an example of gay people having to turn away from their inclinations even though they may feel that they are perfectly acceptable.. this demonstrates that the gb feel that being gay is a taught behaviour rather than an imperfect unnatural desire, otherwise they would be growing out of that desire as they develop towards perfection, as they teach.

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  I wonder what this means for anointed JWs? There is no doubt that they have wrong inclinations, some may even have gay inclinations as this has apparently been/is the case with GB members.

  This must mean that all of the anointed will be resurrected with the same earthly likes, dislikes and desires that they had.
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  How do I find a woman who is a Jehovah's Witness during COVID-19 Pandemic?

  by Silkythefresh in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  hello there, fellow believers!

  i'm here today to talk about something that has been bothering my mind and my heart.

  i truly want to find a woman who knows jehovah's name and worships him.

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  For sure Tottenkopf. These types of posts spring up every now and then. I am pretty sure the reason isn't so much to troll but to promote discussion. It often works and can go on for pages.
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  GB teaching - Gays and Lesbians will be resurrected as Gays and Lesbians

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the final talk of the saturday afternoon online convention is given by lett, sporting a creepy looking combover, which for some reason, looks creepier than normal.

  he talks about how those resurrected will need to come into line with a new moral code otherwise they will be destroyed.

  he uses an example of gay people having to turn away from their inclinations even though they may feel that they are perfectly acceptable.. this demonstrates that the gb feel that being gay is a taught behaviour rather than an imperfect unnatural desire, otherwise they would be growing out of that desire as they develop towards perfection, as they teach.

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  W 2014 8/15

  "Third, if Jesus’ words apply to the resurrection to heaven, does this mean that those who are resurrected on earth will be able to marry? God’s Word does not give a clear answer to that question. If Jesus was talking about the resurrection to heaven, then his words do not explain whether resurrected ones on earth will be able to marry in the new world...

  We may have many questions about how life will be in the new world. Instead of trying to guess the answers to these questions, we must simply wait and see. But one thing is certain: Those who obey God will be happy, because Jehovah will satisfy all their needs and desires in the best way.​—Psalm 145:16."

  Thankfully, even though we are not to do our own speculating, the GB shed new light on matters for us. What JWs know now is that people will be resurrected with their genitalia and with the same sexual desires that they had before but they don't know whether they will be able to marry.

  Data Dog According to them Jehovah is going to resurrect pedo's with their same desires. I hope they can come up with a better plan of protecting children.
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  GB teaching - Gays and Lesbians will be resurrected as Gays and Lesbians

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the final talk of the saturday afternoon online convention is given by lett, sporting a creepy looking combover, which for some reason, looks creepier than normal.

  he talks about how those resurrected will need to come into line with a new moral code otherwise they will be destroyed.

  he uses an example of gay people having to turn away from their inclinations even though they may feel that they are perfectly acceptable.. this demonstrates that the gb feel that being gay is a taught behaviour rather than an imperfect unnatural desire, otherwise they would be growing out of that desire as they develop towards perfection, as they teach.

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  The final talk of the Saturday afternoon online Convention is given by Lett, sporting a creepy looking combover, which for some reason, looks creepier than normal. He talks about how those resurrected will need to come into line with a new moral code otherwise they will be destroyed.

  He uses an example of gay people having to turn away from their inclinations even though they may feel that they are perfectly acceptable.

  This demonstrates that the GB feel that being gay is a taught behaviour rather than an imperfect unnatural desire, otherwise they would be growing out of that desire as they develop towards perfection, as they teach.

  It also means that the GB believe people will be resurrected as male and female with sexual desires. They have not been so clear about this until this Convention talk.
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  Remember Daisy, the BB Gun? Some early history

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was still a jw at the time and my four boys were always anxious for me to bring home a daisy product.

  i did just that during a weekend for a lab tryout.

  ha!

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  Yes, toy guns were a no no but making toy swords for a family worship play is okay.
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  Mandatory Donations-2.

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  mandatory donations-2.

  catholic church donation cards.

  https://uploads.weconnect.com/mce/e114c448f4ab8554ad14eff3d66dfeb3965ce8fc/tithing%20pledge%20card.pdf .

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  Awake 75 7/22 states

  "It has been contended that remarks made by Jesus Christ in the Sermon on the Mount forbid his followers to take oaths. Jesus stated: “Again you heard that it was said to those of ancient times, ‘You must not swear without performing, but you must pay your vows to Jehovah.’ However, I say to you: Do not swear at all, neither by heaven, because it is God’s throne; nor by earth, because it is the footstool of his feet; nor by Jerusalem, because it is the city of the great King. Nor by your head must you swear, because you cannot turn one hair white or black. Just let your word Yes mean Yes, your No, No; for what is in excess of these is from the wicked one.”​—Matt. 5:33-37; compare James 5:12.

  Did Jesus mean that it is wrong for his followers to take oaths of any kind? No, we cannot draw that conclusion, for various reasons. ..."

  They then explain how in Hebraw law they took oaths (which is exactly what Jesus was saying and replacing with a new command) and use that to say it is okay. Then they explain it is a conscience matter, in some circumstances, for you to determine if it is an oath that is against God's will.

  Therefore the GB have determined that it is appropriate for JWs to make resolutions or to promise certain monthly amounts. They also have special full time servants sign an oath to obey the GB. Obeying Jesus' words are optional.

  
  
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  Mandatory Donations??? Is This Accurate?

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does the information about mandatory donations in this post sound accurate to you?.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/i1gews/new_letter_1000_donations_are_mandatory_now/ petra!

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  The Elders letter you just sent out says that the Congregation Elders need to get together to decide if the suggested amount is okay or whether they need to lower or increase the amount. Once that is decided, they need to get a resolution from the Congregation for that amount. The wording in the letter states that the money will come from monthly donations made to the local Congregation.

  Because the Elders are required to get a resolution from the Congregation, this now obligates them to donate that stated amount. I agree with the reddit poster, it becomes mandatory (as a Congregation).

  There is no date for how long this resolution is to last and there is no provision for the Elders to review that amount.
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  Assistance Received!--2020-August-S-147-E Announcements And Reminders! (as of 2020-08-02)

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  someone has stepped forward to assist us.

  that sure didn't take very long!.

  2020-august-s-147-e announcements and reminders, in english and in german.. .

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  That's great news and thanks for the delivery.
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  BOE Update! (as of 2020-07-31)

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  body of elder letters, announcements, and so forth will be next to "none" unless more elders decide to contact us and help out.. atlantis has lost three elders in the past two years.

  two elders were disfellowshipped, and one disassociated and walk away a month ago.. when this happens receiving confidential documents is severed.

  the last announcement we received was 2020-07-23. i was not about to send out a childish letter on "mold" in the kingdom halls.. there are people out there out of work and concerned about what they will eat tomorrow, and the watchtower is concerned with mold!.

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  Thanks for all your hard work, Atlantas and Petra.