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  WItnessing work in Hong Kong

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was in hong kong recently, which is a lovely country but very much a big city where people live differently because of it.

  on one of our days we were walking to the ferry through a covered walkway and there were heaps of people handing out all sorts of leaflets to passerbys, you couldn't walk 10 steps without someone trying to give you their leaflet.

  i was surprised when we came across about half a dozen witnesses trying to hand out magazines.

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  Babylon the Great

  by Listener in

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  2. bible

  the org teaches that babylon the great is the world empire of false religion (although it once confined it the the catholic church) but i find it difficult that there will be a collapse of religion although people's attitude towards religion has changed greatly, particularly muslim.

  babylon means confusion.. the recent global financial crisis has got me thinking that this is quite significant and a collapse of our financial stucture will certainly cause a great deal of hardship for both governments and individuals.

  it would change every part of our every day life, particularly in the western world.

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  A simple question

  by Listener in

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  2. beliefs

  there is a lot of information available about questions to ask jws.

  it's a good thing to make them think a little more instead of being spoon fed all the time.. one question that could be posed is - where did the the 'new light' come from?

  (answer) so where did the 'old light' come from?.

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  Is field service a biblical requirement?

  by Listener in

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  2. beliefs

  there are two classes of jws - the annointed/chosen ones/those with the heavenly hope and the great crowd/other sheep/those with earthly hope.

  this makes it quite difficult to determine as to whether jesus was giving directions to either the annointed or both classes.

  but the org does distinguish at times as to the authorities given to them (the annointed) and therefore the directions they may impose on the other sheep.. there is an interesting article about witnessing and who's responsibility it is.. from the watchtower 2004 3/1 para 20. the great crowd of other sheep have imitated their anointed brothers.

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  Taking brothers to court

  by Listener in

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  2. beliefs

  the new elders book viewpoint on this is very interesting and rather sad.

  apparantely the scripture which states not to take your fellow bro's to court (1 cor 6:1-8) is not to be taken too literally.

  no, in fact there are circumstances that the org has 'spiritually' determined where you can take your bro to court, even on very personal matters.

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  Preperation for Armageddon

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i dislike the way that the publications promote such excitement for armageddon.

  i have only ever met one jw that actually suggested that anyone dying beforehand may be fortunate as they will not have to face the horrors of armageddon.

  anyway, it would make a lot of sense if the gb somehow focused on preservation during this time as many will die due to the nature of what will occur.

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  Jesus as Mediator

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was stunned when i read that according to jws jesus is not the mediator to all those baptized and this is not available to all mankind although the benefit of his position as mediator is.

  they believe that only the annointed with the heavenly hope have jesus as their mediator.. i cannot understand why they tell all jws that they must pray through jesus christ.

  if he is not the 'great crowds' mediator then wouldn't it be wrong the pray through jesus?

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  Resurrection Question

  by Listener in

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  2. beliefs

  i've been doing a little research and can't quite understand the jw doctrine on resurrection.. firstly there are the annointed, in the new convenant and hence those only faithfull after jesus time on earth.

  so it is all those from jesus' time to the time the jws decided there was a great crowd, around about 1935 and a handful since then.

  then there is the others that died before jesus time and the great crowd that die before the end of armageddon starting around about 1935 onwards... is this correct?

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  The Annointed - how do they know?

  by Listener in

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  2. beliefs

  to me this is a serious matter as the annointed are the basis of how the organization is set up and operates.

  yet i have great difficulty in understanding how these people know that they are annointed.

  does the bible actually say that they will know?

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  What happened to the questions in the Watchtower and why?

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  could someone please advise why the questions for public study on a sunday are no longer in the watchtower?.

  also a while ago now the gatherings in private homes during the week for study also stopped.. i was told that it was in preparation of armageddon so that individuals could become more independant and have more time to establish their relationship directly with jehovah.

  this was because the gb felt people were relying on the organization too much in providing their spiritual needs and with armageddon it may be that jws will not be able to access the support network that they currently have.

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