Posts by DanaBug

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The big bad "worldly" person

by roxanesophia in

considering this looks to be mostly a ex-jw site, you're probably thinking "coming into it?

run.

" but i have friends in it who have persuaded me to have a bible study and attend meetings, and well, hey... it isn't doing me much harm.

DanaBug

is this how the "worldly ones" are treated? Are JW's encouraged to keep their distance from someone who isn't yet baptized?

Yes.

Watchtower 1994 Feb 15 p.24
"We must also be on guard against extended association with worldly people. Perhaps it is a neighbor, a school friend, a workmate, or a business associate. We may reason, 'He respects the Witnesses, he leads a clean life, and we do talk about the truth occasionally.' Yet, the experience of others proves that in time we may even find ourselves preferring such worldly company to that of a spiritual brother or sister. What are some of the dangers of such a friendship?"

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/quotes/worldly-people.php

Maybe they think you're not progressing fast enough or have some ulterior motive, like being interested in a JW and studying just to get close to them. Take a look around this site, freeminds.org, and jwfacts.com and learn about the other side of this religion. The decision is up to you ultimately, but I recommend you get far away from it. If you get baptized, there's no easy way to leave. Their god is small, petty, vindictive, and monstrous not something you'd really want to spend eternity worshipping.

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My Study Conductor Jumped Ship - Any Possible Explanations?

by InterestedOne in

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my study conductor has informed me that he & his wife are switching to a foreign language congregation that is far away from the territory they live in (it will involve a lot of driving back & forth).

because he is switching congregations, he said he will not have the energy to devote to my study and recommended another brother who could take over, and i have met him.

however, this change happened simultaneously with a decision i have made.

DanaBug

I think it's a coincidence, it's not likely he switched congregations because of a bible study. My parents did this when I was about 11. Foreign language territory is much more exciting, people actually respond. The usual english territory in the US is really apathetic and they work a lot and have their own churches. Also, foreign language, in my experience, puts you out there more as there aren't as many people in the group. It's harder to fade if you're in a smaller group. What language are they switching to?

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from a Yahoo e-mail group, the pot calling the kettle black, o'boy

by therevealer in

it's not the fault of the people who believe it but those that teach it.

false religion teaches people nonsense and since their flocks know nothing about the bible, they don't know how to reason such teachings from the scriptures.

anything that doesn't make sense, like this subject or the trinity, they're told that's where faith comes in.

DanaBug

Well, I have to now. Are you sitting down? I'm pretty anonymous here so I feel comfortable sharing......... I wiki-ed it, lol!

I was thinking one night about virgins and fornication and the Bible and my first time and I thought, wait are humans the only ones who have hymens? What purpose do they serve? I still don't know what purpose they serve, there's speculation though.

Whales have them too. And...I'll leave you with that...

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from a Yahoo e-mail group, the pot calling the kettle black, o'boy

by therevealer in

it's not the fault of the people who believe it but those that teach it.

false religion teaches people nonsense and since their flocks know nothing about the bible, they don't know how to reason such teachings from the scriptures.

anything that doesn't make sense, like this subject or the trinity, they're told that's where faith comes in.

DanaBug

Anything that doesn't make sense, like this subject or the trinity, they're told that's where faith comes in.

Blind, yep. Would this mean JWs don't need faith because all their beliefs are "reasoned from the scriptures"?

That is the nonsense false religion spends it's time trying to figure out then teaches it's members who figure, "well, they're the educated ones, they must know."

LMAO!

Btw, did you know humans aren't the only mammal that has a hymen? I didn't know that until a couple weeks ago.

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I just got my memorial invite

by twinkle toes in

well technically it is an anniversary invite/special talk invite.

the car group was just here.

i was home but hiding and my husband got the door.. i want to tell them exactly why i am not going , but i haven't got my head quite there yet.. i think i am gonna have to just decline!.

DanaBug

I haven't got a memorial invite since I was df'd, almost 7 years now.

And about that invite (thank you fokyc!), "John the Baptizer"?? What's up with that?

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God's Slow to Anger

by charlie brown jr. in

remember the story of the ark of the covenant on the wagon and it started to fall and one of the men grabbed it so as not to have it fall on the ground and it's contents spill on the ground...... what happened...oh yeah jah stuck him dead!!

for touching it.... i remember the wts saying it was disrespectful to have it on a wagon..... so much for slow to anger lol!.

DanaBug

Great minds and all that...lol!

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God's Slow to Anger

by charlie brown jr. in

remember the story of the ark of the covenant on the wagon and it started to fall and one of the men grabbed it so as not to have it fall on the ground and it's contents spill on the ground...... what happened...oh yeah jah stuck him dead!!

for touching it.... i remember the wts saying it was disrespectful to have it on a wagon..... so much for slow to anger lol!.

DanaBug

From Jah's perspective, and we know he can break time down to picoseconds and beyond, he could have struck in about 10-20 nanoseconds.

Wait a sec...a thousand years is like one day to him. Wouldn't that make the time between touching his junk and getting zapped really, really, really fast?

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How do we encourage the science of homosexuality?

by sabastious in

at one point in my life i chose to stop listening to my religion's advice to not research outside of their framework.

about the time i made that decision was when the gay marriage debate was going very strong; and still is to this day.

back then i felt like my state of california was leading the front on it to stop the bigotry and oppression once and for all.. it was a hot topic for me because i was questioning the bible and my faith so i started researching the science of homosexulality.

DanaBug

In fact, that has zero reporductive value.

That may not be true. Nicolaou linked the article about a 2004 study. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article493668.ece

The findings suggest that the same genes that trigger homosexuality in men also promote fertility in women, and that this could explain how they survive in the population when gay men themselves are unlikely to breed. The genes are instead passed on through the female line and the enhanced fertility they confer on these women ensures that they are inherited by plenty of children.

Same group in 2008:

Male homosexuality is difficult to explain under Darwinian evolutionary models, because carriers of genes predisposing towards male homosexuality would be likely to reproduce less than average, suggesting that alleles influencing homosexuality should progressively disappear from a population. This changed when previous work by Camperio Ciani and collaborators, published in 2004, showed that females in the maternal line of male homosexuals were more fertile than average.

They concluded that the only possible model was that of sexually antagonistic selection. The other models did not fit the empirical data, either implying that the alleles would become extinct too easily or invade the population, or failing to describe the distribution patterns of male homosexuality and female fecundity observed in the families of homosexuals. Only the model of sexually antagonistic selection involving at least two genes – at least one of which must be on the X chromosome (inherited in males only through their mother) – accounted for all the known data.

http://www.physorg.com/news132983648.html

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HELL ain't what it use to be! Pastor in trouble for doubting it!

by Terry in

faith hell-questioning pastor rob bell says new book has led him to profound brokenness .

bell's recently-released book.. nashville, tenn. (ap) evangelical megachurch pastor rob bell said he did not anticipate the firestorm he would stir with his book that questions the traditional christian belief that a select number of believers will spend eternity in heaven while everyone else is tormented in hell.. bell said tuesday that he not only didnt set out to be controversial, he had no idea his best seller, love wins, would bring condemnation from people like southern baptist seminary president albert mohler, who claims bell is leading people astray.. the last couple of weeks have been most painful in my life, the pastor from mars hill bible church in grand rapids, mich., told a crowd of about 1,600 at nashvilles belmont university on tuesday after an audience member asked him about the criticism he has faced.

it has taken me to a place of profound brokenness.. but he said that with gods help he has been able to learn and grow from the experience.. even before the book was published last month, religious leaders and their followers were branding it heresy, hailing it as a breakthrough or landing somewhere in the middle.

DanaBug

First reaction, I want to hug Rob Bell and read his book. I have no problem with that kind of Christianity, this is what I want also: to fix things now, make heaven on earth. But then I remember, our ideas on heaven might be really different. Yeah, I'm gonna have to read that.

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Heads up, the Local Needs part this week is a special talk on blood transfusions.

by miseryloveselders in

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a brother called me to ask who was delivering the talk at our hall.

i didn't know what he was talking about.

he then explained to me that this week, for the local needs, congregations across the us will have a brother deliver a special outline on blood transfusions.. .

DanaBug

Where is Ynot? I haven't seen her post in ages.

Refresh my memory please, this would not be about signing the cards, right? That happens towards the end of the year?