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  Anonymous attack on the Watchtower?

  by Nickolas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have you ever heard of anonymous?.

  anonymous is an amorphos underground collective of internet activists - interactivists.

  many of their activities are illegal, or at least reside in the grey area of legality.

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  Nickolas

  The Watchtower is no where near as threatening as Scientology or Westboro.

  That's a perception I don't share, but I respect your right to it. Perhaps is it more like Anonymous doesn't know about the Watchtower and the evil it does.
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  Anonymous attack on the Watchtower?

  by Nickolas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have you ever heard of anonymous?.

  anonymous is an amorphos underground collective of internet activists - interactivists.

  many of their activities are illegal, or at least reside in the grey area of legality.

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  Nickolas

  Have you ever heard of Anonymous?

  Anonymous is an amorphos underground collective of internet activists - interactivists. Many of their activities are illegal, or at least reside in the grey area of legality. Some refer to them as hacktivists. They hack into the servers of organisations they perceive to be corrupt, immoral, unjust, greedy or just plain evil. They steal and leak information, shut down websites, infiltrate and disrupt email systems. They seek truth, liberty, freedom, fairness and justice - sort of like your typical comic book superhero, only Anonymous is real. Real and virtual at the same time. They don't have a face, they have no leadership (although Barrett Brown, who co-authored Flock of Dodos: Behind Modern Creationism, Intelligent Design and the Easter Bunny with Jon P. Alston, has been widely associated with Anonymous as its informal spokesman and strategist) and they have no headquarters. They just are. And it is entirely likely that a number of them is among us here on JWN.

  Anonymous has taken on several causes, some political, some social, some secular and, yes, some religious. In 2008, Anonymous launched Project Chanology, an attack on the Church of Scientology's website that successfully took it out of action after the Church threatened legal action in response to an unflattering YouTube post. This year already, they have launched Operation Westboro against the notorious homophobic Baptist church, in which the WBC website was hacked during a live radio debate between a Westboro representative and an Anonymous participant.

  I am not advocating an attack of this nature on the Watchtower. I am wondering when it might happen.
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  Is "Kingdumb Hall" really an offensive term?

  by cyberjesus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if a friend of mine starts to say things out of emotion and i call him "schizophrenic" then that might be an insult.

  however if he is having auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking then that word becomes a description of his situation.. now i ask you.

  does the attendance to the kh promote intelligence?

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  Nickolas

  What's the point? You all just go wherever the wind takes you and I will sincerely wish you well, and help you get there if I can.

  Good night.
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  Is "Kingdumb Hall" really an offensive term?

  by cyberjesus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if a friend of mine starts to say things out of emotion and i call him "schizophrenic" then that might be an insult.

  however if he is having auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking then that word becomes a description of his situation.. now i ask you.

  does the attendance to the kh promote intelligence?

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  Nickolas

  I have to agree with you, Quandry. By your own accounting you badly screwed up and if I was you I'd be bitter, too. But you know deep down that you had a lot of help and most of the blame for your mistakes is not yours. I'm resentful, too. I despise the WTBTS for what it has taken away from my life, not because I was complicit in it but because my indifference and bad judgement allowed it to happen. I screwed up in a different way.

  But don't beat yourself up. Lots of us in here got sucked in by the WTBTS. If you want to bring down the Watchtower, as a great many of us do, you need a more sophisticated approach than schoolyard name calling.
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  Disfellowshipping Offense

  by Had To Go in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i went to my sister's wedding this past sunday, which happened to be smack dab in the middle of a church service.

  my all faithful husband told me it was a dfing offense and that he was obligated to tell the elders that i was going to a church.

  i really could care less about the actual act of being df it is the fact that my husband felt the need to "turn me in".

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  Nickolas

  Sad how the Watchtower insinuates itself as the third person in a marriage, sadder still when it becomes more important than respect for one's spouse. I'm not a witness but my wife is. I don't know what I might do if I was approached by an elder who wanted to discuss something she brought to his attention, but I expect it would not be especially jovial.
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  A frog in boiling water?

  by hoser in

  1. jw
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  i don't know where i've heard it before(perhaps from a circuit overseer talk) but someone associated with jehovahs witnesses made the analogy.

  that if you put a frog in a pot of boiling water it will jump out immediately, but if you put the same frog in a pot of cold water and slowly heat it up.

  the frog will not notice the gradual temperature change and will cook to death.. the overseer or elder used this illustration as a warning to say that gradual changes in morals around us- we will not notice and get cooked alive.

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  Nickolas

  It is not so much the fallacy of the illustration but its objective that is important. Part of the high control arsenal and very effective. It is an admonishment not to open your mind, not to allow in even the tiniest bit of contrarian thought, not to question what you are being told, because if you do it will be a fatal flaw in your faith in Jehovah and his Organisation and you will as a consequence certainly forfeit your place on paradise Earth. You will die. You will never see your loved ones again. And, just to make sure you understand the seriousness of daring to question the Truth, you will be disfellowshipped and shunned and whatever life you have left in the present system of things will be made miserable. It is a fearsome prospect to a Jehovah's Witness and why it is so very difficult to break through.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Are NOT Under Mind Control

  by PublishingCult in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how would you respond to the assertion that 7.2 million members of the jehovah's witness religion are not under any sort of mind control?.

  the argument being that every one is responsible for their own actions and cannot blame the indoctrinator for what he says and does.

  how could they possibly be under mind control?.

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  Nickolas

  Eloquent, JuanMiguel.
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  Is "Kingdumb Hall" really an offensive term?

  by cyberjesus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if a friend of mine starts to say things out of emotion and i call him "schizophrenic" then that might be an insult.

  however if he is having auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking then that word becomes a description of his situation.. now i ask you.

  does the attendance to the kh promote intelligence?

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  Nickolas

  Then again, OUTLAW's sense of humour always makes me smile, laugh even, and that helps me not take all this shit too seriously.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Are NOT Under Mind Control

  by PublishingCult in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how would you respond to the assertion that 7.2 million members of the jehovah's witness religion are not under any sort of mind control?.

  the argument being that every one is responsible for their own actions and cannot blame the indoctrinator for what he says and does.

  how could they possibly be under mind control?.

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  Nickolas

  Spade, the greatest conundrum of mind control is that one is unaware of it in himself.
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  Is "Kingdumb Hall" really an offensive term?

  by cyberjesus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if a friend of mine starts to say things out of emotion and i call him "schizophrenic" then that might be an insult.

  however if he is having auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking then that word becomes a description of his situation.. now i ask you.

  does the attendance to the kh promote intelligence?

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  Nickolas

  Yes, I understand what you are saying, Giordano, and I understand the emotional dynamic and why it is so. I have a profound loathing for the WTBTS myself and I realise there are some dispicable individuals who frequent the Kingdom Halls. But there are also many good people who are victims of the WTBTS whose delusions will only be entrenched by the perceived persecutions they are constantly told to expect. If my ambition is to open someone's mind and help them escape the Watchtower, venom and vitriol make my job more difficult.