Seems to me you've got it nailed, jgnat.
Nickolas
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The Watchtower Brand
by jgnat inso very often i am reminded how much more the wtbts operates as a corporation than a religion.
every meeting has an agenda, and timelines are adhered to.
publishers and pioneers practice their sales techniques in front of their peers for critique, have assigned routes and reporting routines.
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The secret of how Christianity spread across the world
by Terry inwhat i am going to say may sound nasty and mean-spirited.
i assure you it is not intended in that tone.. men are power seekers and control freaks.
without using women as drones to do the grunt work of religion.
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Nickolas
Fascinating dialogue. PublishingCult, that is a dynamite video. It would be apropos in several threads.
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Mixed marriages - JW/non-JW - what makes you stay?
by Nickolas ini know a woman, became a wife .
these are the very words she uses to describe her life .
she said a good day, ain't got no rain .
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Nickolas
I took Zimbardo's test and found that I am too focused on the failures and disappointments of the past. I see how that drags me down and lowers my zest for living. I've resolved to stop obsessing over past events I can't change.
I think you know how much that resonates, jgnat. As long as your mate accepts you 100% for the person you are, it will work. But if you're a hedonistic athiest like me, it might just be a bit of a stretch.
Fortunately, she's not a jihadist JW...she really doesn't go to the hall much or anything. In fact, she says I'm her "favorite heathen." What we have works for us. However, I realize that this is the exception - for sure not the rule.
hey, CoonDawg, that would suit me just fine.
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Mixed marriages - JW/non-JW - what makes you stay?
by Nickolas ini know a woman, became a wife .
these are the very words she uses to describe her life .
she said a good day, ain't got no rain .
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Nickolas
Personally, I would never accept this third party to my marriage. I would tell my JW wife that she had to show proper headship in my home or she could move out and let the Watchtower society and the elders provide for her (they won't of course). I think most JW women would move out and all their friends would be so happy that they "were firm for Jehovah".
After all this time it's apparent I'd never do that, lifeisgood. My wife is delusional, and I have told her that time and time again. She got sucked into the mindset by her screwed-up brother (same one who convinced his son to take the plunge at age 12 and who is now shunning him) all those years ago and I've been trying (badly, apparently) to pull her out ever since. If she suffered from dementia, I would stay with her. If she broke her neck or had a stroke and needed 24 hour care, I would stay with her. That's just the way it is. Maybe someday she'll wake up.
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Are JWs the worst restaurant customers?
by Alfred in(a little background info before i ask my question...).
my sister-in-law (non-jw), who manages a popular chain restaurant near a kingdom hall, just found out that my wife and i have recently faded, so she decided to get something off her chest the other day... you guessed it: she wanted us to know that jws are the worst customers ever!
she then told us some really embarrassing stories about how jws would request a table for 15 to 20 people (after a sunday meeting) and then (when the bill came) some of the jws would start deliberating amongst themselves on whether or not the waiter was diligent or not (to justify the low tip he was getting anyway).
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Nickolas
Man, I thought you guys were kidding. Leaving a magazine as a tip?
I haven't noticed this, probably because it's usually me who picks up the tab. When it's been otherwise I have noticed that cash is not used, always credit cards, so I never know how large a tip has been left, if any. If the Witness picking up the tab is of modest means, as is often the case, I'll hold back as everyone is leaving and throw a bill or two on the table, especially if I eat in the same restaurant from time to time. It's my reputation, too. I have also offered to leave the tip when it's me who's being treated, which has more than once been accepted.
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Mixed marriages - JW/non-JW - what makes you stay?
by Nickolas ini know a woman, became a wife .
these are the very words she uses to describe her life .
she said a good day, ain't got no rain .
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Nickolas
I know a woman, became a wife
These are the very words she uses to describe her life
She said a good day, ain't got no rain
She said a bad day's when I lie in bed
And I think of things that might have been Paul Simon - Slip Sliding Away
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ever done that? Lie in bed an analyse your life in the context of you and your spouse not being on the same page? Yeah, same story from Nickolas ad nauseum, but it helps to vent.
I know there are several other people on this board in my situation. Women and men whose husbands and wives are Jehovah's Witnesses while they are not. Most yearn to find a way to set them free. Some seem to have given up hope or have resigned themselves to accept things as they are. Still others gave up entirely and called it quits. I don't ever want go there but I do allow myself to imagine that my wife just might, if I got to be more intolerant toward her association with the WTBTS than I already am, or if the elders in her congregation got wind of how thoroughly I loathe the Society and decided to intercede, as some on here have warned could happen. Still, there are times I have to keep myself from boiling over (my nephew's shunning is a key trigger but there are others) and on bad days I am unable to. I get to thinking selfishly and not remembering all the good stuff. I think about her getting baptised against my wishes almost 33 years ago, I think about the 5 years of marriage we had before, I think about the things my children and I have been denied, about the Watchtower being the third person in our marriage and in our marriage bed, about the strained relationship with my parents, now deceased, and all the stuff that's lost forever. I think about the time I have left and I wonder why I stay.
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Time
Is tapping on my forehead,
Hanging from my mirror,
Rattling the teacups,
And I wonder,
How long can I delay?
We're just a habit
Like saccharin.
And I'm habitually feelin' kinda blue.
But each time I try on
The thought of leaving you,
I stop...
I stop and think it over Paul Simon - Overs----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I stay because I love her more than anything, even this. What makes you stay?
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I've been outed...
by brotherdan inso this weekend my wife had a major grand mal seizure for the first time in her life.
she was rushed to the er.
a few hours later while i was at her side she had another major one.. it was the scariest moment in my life.
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Nickolas
What? (Nick cocks head).
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The Love Canal Tragedy:
by Snoozy inpart 1:.
the love canal tragedy #endeditable end page name begin content area #begineditable "content" .
by eckardt c. beck.
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Nickolas
I was in the area so drove by the site last summer. It's surrounded by a green chainlink fence, no signs that I could detect to tell you what it was all about. It is almost pastural. Lots of wildflowers growing. I understand that real estate just outside the fence is very reasonably priced ....
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Where does my DNA go when I die?
by sabastious inwhen i die my consiousness ceases to exist, but the matter that makes me does not cease to exist, it merely changes form.
dna is where all the "data" that makes me is stored, so where does it go when i die?
what smaller parts does it break down to over time?.
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Nickolas
Billions of years have already passed for this planet and billions maybe trillions of years are left.
The estimated life expectancy of our sun is another four to five billion years, at which point it will have used up almost all of its hydrogen fuel and begin to fuse helium. It's size will expand by a factor of about 300, engulfing and incinerating the inner planets, including the Earth, destroying all possibility of any form of life whatsoever. But don't be too concerned, in all likelihood the Earth's biosphere will have been destroyed well before that.
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The secret of how Christianity spread across the world
by Terry inwhat i am going to say may sound nasty and mean-spirited.
i assure you it is not intended in that tone.. men are power seekers and control freaks.
without using women as drones to do the grunt work of religion.
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Nickolas
I am more inclined to agree with dear Nick
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Saturday, March 19, 2011. Marking my calendar.