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  The Watchtower Proselytizer's road to hell

  by Nickolas in

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  there is an old proverb that says the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

  take heed.. how many people have you harmed in your life, even when you didn't intend to?.

  former witnesses on this board have expressed regret and shame for having gone door to door luring people into the watchtower.

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  Nickolas

  LongHairGal, looking from the outside in, you've done everything you can to correct your mistake. If I was you I'd sleep peacefully.
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  The Watchtower Proselytizer's road to hell

  by Nickolas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is an old proverb that says the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

  take heed.. how many people have you harmed in your life, even when you didn't intend to?.

  former witnesses on this board have expressed regret and shame for having gone door to door luring people into the watchtower.

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  Nickolas

  No buts, mrsjones. Those who are out can make amends by helping others escape. There is no redemption for those who are still in and luring others into something they no longer believe in.

  What ends are you referring to, sab?
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  Are JWs the worst restaurant customers?

  by Alfred in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (a little background info before i ask my question...).

  my sister-in-law (non-jw), who manages a popular chain restaurant near a kingdom hall, just found out that my wife and i have recently faded, so she decided to get something off her chest the other day... you guessed it: she wanted us to know that jws are the worst customers ever!

  she then told us some really embarrassing stories about how jws would request a table for 15 to 20 people (after a sunday meeting) and then (when the bill came) some of the jws would start deliberating amongst themselves on whether or not the waiter was diligent or not (to justify the low tip he was getting anyway).

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  Which all goes to show, DagothUr, that the real correlation between tipping and non-tipping is the income of the patron, not the patron's religious philosophy. Not a whole lot of Jehovah's Witnesses are well off. Yes, that's a particular feature of a religion that espouses what it does, but it's the money in the pocket that determines the dynamic, not the nonsense in the head.
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  The Watchtower Proselytizer's road to hell

  by Nickolas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is an old proverb that says the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

  take heed.. how many people have you harmed in your life, even when you didn't intend to?.

  former witnesses on this board have expressed regret and shame for having gone door to door luring people into the watchtower.

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  Nickolas

  There is an old proverb that says the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Take heed.

  How many people have you harmed in your life, even when you didn't intend to?

  Former Witnesses on this board have expressed regret and shame for having gone door to door luring people into the Watchtower. How do you sleep at night, thinking about all those people you personally brought in? Do you maintain some sort of metal ledger balancing off your debt/guilt with people you have personally helped to escape? Or do you just quietly live with it and try to forget?

  Still others, astonishingly, express shame because they are still going door to door and they justify their hypocrisy against their fear of being outed and shunned, losing everything. There's another word for this. It's selfishness. It's putting your needs above the welfare of others. Whether you are simply callous or cowardly, the result is the same. How do you qualify your intentions?

  There are two kinds of hell, the one that's real and the one that isn't. The one that's real is in your mind. It eats away at you when you are all alone with your thoughts, like when you're lying awake in bed at three in the morning and everything is quiet except the voice in your head. The one that's real fills the last years of your life with anxiety and remorse while what you have done plays over and over in your mind and you can't make it stop.

  Good intentions justify nothing. If you are responsible for doing harm, you are still responsible.
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  Mixed marriages - JW/non-JW - what makes you stay?

  by Nickolas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know a woman, became a wife .

  these are the very words she uses to describe her life .

  she said a good day, ain't got no rain .

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  I do understand why you feel the way you do, wifeofjw. If my marriage wasn't as strong as it is in other areas it would have been over a long time ago.

  I see by your join date that you're a longtime veteran of the board but you have made very few posts, so I'm assuming that you've done a fair bit of lurking - maybe looking for ways to cope? Your posts over the past five years share a common theme, and that is getting your spouse out, and the dominant emotion you're indicating is frustration. I understand all that, too.

  I wish you all the best. Maybe your wakeup call last night will get through.

  Nickolas
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  Are JWs the worst restaurant customers?

  by Alfred in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (a little background info before i ask my question...).

  my sister-in-law (non-jw), who manages a popular chain restaurant near a kingdom hall, just found out that my wife and i have recently faded, so she decided to get something off her chest the other day... you guessed it: she wanted us to know that jws are the worst customers ever!

  she then told us some really embarrassing stories about how jws would request a table for 15 to 20 people (after a sunday meeting) and then (when the bill came) some of the jws would start deliberating amongst themselves on whether or not the waiter was diligent or not (to justify the low tip he was getting anyway).

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  If we get Americans though, I find that they tend to tip less - or in coin (or a couple dollar bills), thinking that their coins are so much more valuable than Canadian currency ;)

  I remember overhearing a waitress in a Florida restaurant telling a joke to the folks in the next booth, Tammy. She said something like, "Yeah, we get a lot of Canadian snowbirds in here. Hey, what's the difference between a Canadian and a canoe? Don't know? A canoe tips." Cheap comes in all shapes, sizes, nationalities and religious denominations.

  I don't agree with the sentiment about customers not paying the wages of restaurant workers with their tips. Customers are already paying the wages of restaurant servers as part of the bill, it's just that servers base pay is not all that high as a practical rule. If they are paid higher wages two things happen. One, the price of the meal goes up and the restaurant will not be as competitive as the place down the road that pays its servers minimum wage. Two, the quality of the service goes down because there is no incentive on the part of the server to make the extra effort to please the customer, and that will also affect the bottom line of the restaurant when people don't come back. I consider tips as sort of "pay for performance". If you as a server do a good job, I'll give you 15%. If you do a great job, I'll bump that up to 20%. If you do a poor job, you'll get 10% to nothing and if you do a really lousey job I'll be sure to fill in the comment card.
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  Mixed marriages - JW/non-JW - what makes you stay?

  by Nickolas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know a woman, became a wife .

  these are the very words she uses to describe her life .

  she said a good day, ain't got no rain .

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  Day following my OP. I've been reflecting on what you said OTWO. I too have a great relationship with my wife, on all fronts other than those negatively impacted by the Watchtower. Let's call it a 9/10. I still want the remaining 1/10 for the two of us, but it's not worth giving up what we have if I don't get it.

  thanks for letting me vent. No doubt I will again at some point.
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  Are JWs the worst restaurant customers?

  by Alfred in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (a little background info before i ask my question...).

  my sister-in-law (non-jw), who manages a popular chain restaurant near a kingdom hall, just found out that my wife and i have recently faded, so she decided to get something off her chest the other day... you guessed it: she wanted us to know that jws are the worst customers ever!

  she then told us some really embarrassing stories about how jws would request a table for 15 to 20 people (after a sunday meeting) and then (when the bill came) some of the jws would start deliberating amongst themselves on whether or not the waiter was diligent or not (to justify the low tip he was getting anyway).

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  But bah, why should I tip them? They're just walking corpses and I'll probably be living in their house after armageddon anyways. :D

  Heh. That's the funniest thing you've ever said, ape.

  be nice too the people that handles your food.

  Unless you want them to spit in the mayo before they serve it up.

  good night.
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  Are JWs the worst restaurant customers?

  by Alfred in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (a little background info before i ask my question...).

  my sister-in-law (non-jw), who manages a popular chain restaurant near a kingdom hall, just found out that my wife and i have recently faded, so she decided to get something off her chest the other day... you guessed it: she wanted us to know that jws are the worst customers ever!

  she then told us some really embarrassing stories about how jws would request a table for 15 to 20 people (after a sunday meeting) and then (when the bill came) some of the jws would start deliberating amongst themselves on whether or not the waiter was diligent or not (to justify the low tip he was getting anyway).

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  Nickolas

  Tipping is more than just courtesy. Every year I go out with a group of old friends for a weekend of male bonding stuff. We look at old cars, eat chicken wings and back ribs, drink too much beer and generally have a good time. There was once we had a waitress who was obviously upset. About 5 minutes before we'd seen that some customer had complained about the service and didn't want to pay for the food. The manager convinced the guy that the food was good but agreed it was only the service that was bad, so just pay for the food and everything would be cool, which is what happened. No tip. One of the guys at the table asked her how much she was being paid per hour and it was pretty low. This was PA, maybe a decade ago. We gave her a good tip but in the long run it didn't make too much difference in her life. People who wait tables just don't get enough respect and those who make it worse for them are assholes.

  my $0.02
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  Wt Org Like an Animal Pack

  by Satanus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  observing how stranglers and those who get ahead of the wt org are left or get ostricised reminded me of similar dynamics in some animal societies, lions, for instance.

  lions and housecats are the only felines that form groups.

  pack members who get sick or injured and become unable to keep up w the pride are left behind.

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  I think an animal pack is more loyal.