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  Truth - How obvious does it need to be?

  by Nickolas in

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  hey folks.

  i've been on this board for just under seven months and i thank all of you who have contributed so generously to my education on things watchtower, and quite a few other things too.

  not all of it was on here but it was through this board i've been directed to sites like freeminds and jwfacts.

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  Nickolas

  Thank you, pirata. Coming to be familiar with Cognitive Dissonance theory is another contribution of this board.
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  Truth - How obvious does it need to be?

  by Nickolas in

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  hey folks.

  i've been on this board for just under seven months and i thank all of you who have contributed so generously to my education on things watchtower, and quite a few other things too.

  not all of it was on here but it was through this board i've been directed to sites like freeminds and jwfacts.

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  Nickolas

  What you're trying to argue about is not clear, sab. What I'm talking about is not rules telling you what you can believe and it certainly is not about censorship (except maybe a reference to how the Watchtower censors information from getting to its membership). I'm talking about evidence leading to a conclusion of truth much like truth is determined in a court of law. I'm talking about the prepoderance of evidence in existence against the Watchtower and how difficult it is to come to any other conclusion that it is not what it says it is.
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  Truth - How obvious does it need to be?

  by Nickolas in

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  2. friends

  hey folks.

  i've been on this board for just under seven months and i thank all of you who have contributed so generously to my education on things watchtower, and quite a few other things too.

  not all of it was on here but it was through this board i've been directed to sites like freeminds and jwfacts.

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  yeah, and this one's even wearing a crucifix. Wow. A hottie who's maybe also an apostate.
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  Truth - How obvious does it need to be?

  by Nickolas in

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  2. friends

  hey folks.

  i've been on this board for just under seven months and i thank all of you who have contributed so generously to my education on things watchtower, and quite a few other things too.

  not all of it was on here but it was through this board i've been directed to sites like freeminds and jwfacts.

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  Nickolas

  This is debatable isn't it? Many "westerners" believe wholeheartedly in, and staunchly defend, fanciful myths and legends without a shred of evidence.

  Not if it is secular, sab. Society is the sum of it members, not its members themselves. And it is set up according to sets of laws and rules, like a constitution, forged by secularists. Most secular western societies separate state from religion and it is the state that determines what is true and what is not. It is when secular society is infected by religious beliefs, such as what we see happening in some places, that truth without evidence takes on any kind of credibility.
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  Truth - How obvious does it need to be?

  by Nickolas in

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  2. friends

  hey folks.

  i've been on this board for just under seven months and i thank all of you who have contributed so generously to my education on things watchtower, and quite a few other things too.

  not all of it was on here but it was through this board i've been directed to sites like freeminds and jwfacts.

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  Nickolas

  Interesting advertising links to this board ... I wonder what my Witness wife would think if she walked in right now
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  Truth - How obvious does it need to be?

  by Nickolas in

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  2. friends

  hey folks.

  i've been on this board for just under seven months and i thank all of you who have contributed so generously to my education on things watchtower, and quite a few other things too.

  not all of it was on here but it was through this board i've been directed to sites like freeminds and jwfacts.

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  Nickolas

  Hey folks. I've been on this board for just under seven months and I thank all of you who have contributed so generously to my education on things Watchtower, and quite a few other things too. Not all of it was on here but it was through this board I've been directed to sites like freeminds and jwfacts. I think it was OnTheWayOut who recommended a few books to me, including Combatting Cult Mind Control by Hassan and Captives of a Concept by Cameron. I read Hassan a few months ago and I'm halfway through Captives and wonder how much more convinced I'm going to be in the months ahead that the Watchtower, to put it mildly, is not what it represents itself to be.

  The Society says that it represents Truth. In secular Western society there is only one test for truth, and that is evidence. When society is offended by something someone has done, it seeks redress from that person and quite often the accused person proclaims his innocence. Society gives the accused the benefit of the doubt but nevertheless seeks the truth through evidence. Same goes for scientific theories. They are also subject to scrutiny based on the evidence in support or not in support of the theory. It all comes down to evidence.

  I haven't even got to reading Crisis of Conscience yet (on its way from freeminds.org) but the evidence I have already seen weighted against the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is more than a little compelling. It's damning. And most of it isn't even new evidence. I was totally ignorant of all these things when I started studying with the Witnesses in 1974 and it was the failure of 1975 that got my attention and precipitated my adios in 1976. But had I known half of the stuff I know now I wouldn't have come near the Witnesses in the first place. But it also leaves me just a little incredulous that intelligent people who are not otherwise blackmailed by the threat of disfellowshipping and shunning stay in. The only reason could be the Society simply forbids their membership either from seeing the evidence in a logical light or from seeing it at all. I don't know which is scarier.

  People who are not yet baptised are visiting this board, in addition to many who are baptised. Maybe there are those who are considering getting involved with the Watchtower, but I haven't met any of those. Regardless, those who are not yet convinced that fleeing from the Watchtower is the right thing to do maybe just haven't seen enough evidence. There's no shortage.
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  Anyone into fishing?

  by Nickolas in

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  check this out.

  the farther into the video the more insane it gets.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3bf0whvsnk&feature=player_embedded.

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  I learned to love fly fishing during five summers in northern BC. Nothing like latching onto a big Gerrard on a 6 or 7 weight rod. In the better rivers I used to carry a sawed off Remington 870 as backup for the canister of pepper spray I had hanging around my neck but never had occasion to use either. Caught lots of great rainbows, though, and a number of enormous bull trout. During the winter we's use flies through the ice. Caught lots but just not the same.

  I was amazed by this video. Never saw or heard of anything like it.
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  Anyone into fishing?

  by Nickolas in

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  check this out.

  the farther into the video the more insane it gets.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3bf0whvsnk&feature=player_embedded.

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  Check this out. The farther into the video the more insane it gets.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Bf0WhvsNk&feature=player_embedded
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  Is there anyway you can Hypnotize your way out of this S**t!!!

  by Star tiger in

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  hi all, .

  with any of the new mind manipulative technologies can any of us forget the terrible experiences of the jehovahs witnesses, and live a normal life and so as to speak carry on as if these horrible times did not exist.. .

  star tiger.

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  No matter what course you take through life there will be things you will wish you never had done and things you will wish never happened to you. That goes for everyone. Recognising that you are human and fallible and putting your mistakes, misdeeds and misadventures behind you as you grow older and wiser is what you need to do. Shake the dust out of your sandals and move on.
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  If You Could Choose The Manner Of Your Death...What Would It Be?

  by Was New Boy in

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  most people really don't want to think about it....but if you could choose, how would like to leave the planet?.

  going out with a bang could be fun..... dying as a martyr?.

  dying as a hero saving someone?.

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  Nickolas

  Nickolas. That scene was absolutely digusting.

  yes, it was, but anshackled said ..

  Ah The Meaning of Life....weeds out the casual Python fans from the hardcore.

  good night, all.