Posts by oldlightnewshite

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Strange statement in last week's study article

by civicsi00 in

there was a strange statement in last week's study article.

well, let's be honest: there were plenty of strange statements!

but one in particular bothered me.

oldlightnewshite

Reniaa's comment that perfection always overrides imperfection is a little worrying. In that all the Nephilim who came down and took human form were perfect when they had relations with women. There must've been a whole lot of boning going on, because the whole earth was filled with violence, which means there were a lot of perfect men running around, (even though they were stoving people's skulls in with clubs etc). Yet, Jehovah decided they were ALL wicked. This was BEFORE the WHOLE EARTH had oceans, there would have been just one big land mass. The world population must have been bigger than today!

There's no hope for any of us.

If it's true...

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How to set up a Watchower cultlike following !!!

by foreverme in

1. keep it vague; keep it simple.

use ambiguous and obscure words, but keep it simple or lose your credibility.. .

2. emphasize the visual and the sensual over the intellectual.

oldlightnewshite

Hi Forever me. Welcome! I want to join your church. Where do I send the money?

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Boom Destroyed!

by Darth plaugeis in

lol some systems will never learn ...will they.

nice to have you back lady lee lol!!!.

online less than 1 day and you've been tested!

oldlightnewshite

I recently felt a disturbance in the force, as if millions of voices cried out at once, and then were suddenly silent.

Turns out there must have been a big convention goin on.

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John Lennon and JW... (...a credible source)

by Confucious in

ok.... of course john lennon's would be 70th birthday was yesterday.. so just a discussion - and please - no hate'in... just some discussion.. but i personally know of a very high ranking jw member (think highest you can basically get...) who related this story to me how some jw's talked to john lennon shortly before he wrote "imagine.".

when he told me - he did preface it by saying it was "hearsay..." that he couldn't prove it.. but listening to the song tonight - i could see how it could be possible.. thoughts?.

confucious.

oldlightnewshite

I heard the one about the sister and the rapist. Also the one about the 5th Dan karate expert brother who did somebody's return visit for them, was asked in and surrounded by 10 guys with baseball bats, and he beat the snot out of all of them. They're all urban Dub legends. I remember hearing one about some Dubs who called on Winston Churchill, and he invited them in and had an hour long conversation. I think Churchill would've been more inclined to say 'Release the hounds...'

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Are you recovering the knowledge that you lost?

by cyberjesus in

when i was in school as young jw i would disregard any kind of knowledge that was against what i was taught by the wt.

things evolution, the space, the age periods of the earth, the immnesity of the space, etc etc.

anything that would bring more questions was also disregarded as not important enough to dedicate our valuable time.

oldlightnewshite

I went to school as a J-Dub and was taught to be suspicious of history, which was my favourite subject. Many a time I used to tell the teacher that I couldn't do this subject or that, and she would find me something else to study. Right now I'm particularly interested in anthropology. The one and only thing that finally got me to get baptized was reading the 'is there a creator who cares about you' book. It took an attempt to answer a lot of science questions. What an absolute pack of lies. Their quote that there wasn't enough bones of early ape men to fill a coffin! I'm making a collection of documentaries and websites which debunk all the pseudo-science crap that comes out of the Watchtower, so that I can show my family. A recent interesting find on torrents was a series of lectures about myths and legends of early cultures, including sumerian,assyrian, Egyptian and Judean.

My real education is only just starting...

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Strange statement in last week's study article

by civicsi00 in

there was a strange statement in last week's study article.

well, let's be honest: there were plenty of strange statements!

but one in particular bothered me.

oldlightnewshite

The can of worms is well and truly opened.

If Jesus' genetic material all came from Jehovah, (which is the only explanation that stops the WT digging themselves into a hole) then how is both Joseph and Mary's lineage even relevant?

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Strange statement in last week's study article

by civicsi00 in

there was a strange statement in last week's study article.

well, let's be honest: there were plenty of strange statements!

but one in particular bothered me.

oldlightnewshite

Jesus, being infinitely intelligent, creates a time machine a la Back to the future, with Delorean car, flux capacitor etc. Jesus then whizzes back 5,900 years or so (he should know) forces Eve into the cool car, whizzes forward to Judea, does the nasty on the back seat of the delorean, waits 9 months, Eve has baby, jesus whizzes Eve back to Eden, tells her she's got an appointment with a snake. Jesus then goes forward in time to Judea, waits for the baby to reach puberty, lures her into the back of the Delorean, and hey presto! The WatchTower is right, and Jehovah has egg on his face.

He COULD have fathered a perfect race. The writing committee obviously thought this one through.

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Goodies from the August SE, QFR

by elderelite in

a few hypocritical goodies from said study edition, questions from readers, which starts on page 6. the article goes to great lenghts to point out that people in pre christian times were forgiven of their sins based on the sacrifice of the christ, which had not yet taken place.

fair enough.

the article explains that, in jehovah's eyes, the ransom was as good as done so it could be applied even though it was not yet paid.... ok... so if a married couple becomes intamite on the night before their wedding should we still form a jc?

oldlightnewshite

Jesus did not shun sinners. He did good to them.

The GB will categorize apostates differently. Somehow they will twist it so that this logic doesn't follow for all. You won't be able to use it as an arguement to be able to speak to DF'd ones.

Perhaps something will come to be printed soon which covers their backsides on this very matter.

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Happy 70th Birthday John Lennon.

by Out at Last! in

jw
friends

happy 70th john, you were one of the best.

your music still moves, inspires, and amazes me.

rip, you should have had many more..

oldlightnewshite

Just think, during the LIVE AID stuff in the 80's... John would've been a LOT more outspoken than Geldof, and took it to a whole nother level.

RIP John. A REAL human being.

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Reggae appreciation---come share, mon...

by FlyingHighNow in

i was listening to the radio in the car while andy and julian were in the store a while ago.

grand rapids has a nice little indy, listener supported station.

this amazing song came on, so beautiful i just have to share.

oldlightnewshite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMrNDnU6PPk&p=11929F3C226C4B80&playnext=1&index=10

Althea and Donna... One hit wonders, but DAMN they had good bubble perms.

As a kid, I loved Madness and the skinhead thing. Check out the cool dancing on 'One step beyond.'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-uyWAe0NhQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkIz3-8wRgo&feature=related

This one is excellent to piss your neighbours off.... a cockney/jamaican mixture.