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  The Watchtower is now the world's largest magazine!

  by life is to short in

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  newsmaxs magazine just published an article that the watchtower is the most read magazine out there it evens surpasses time.. i have never heard of newmaxs but i just was emailed this and thought you might find it interesting.

  i am sorry i do not know how to give the link so i am cutting and pasting.

  if someone can do the link it would be great.

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  oldlightnewshite

  The saddest thing is where you can play a game. I call it the hansel and gretel game. In a busy town, follow the discarded Wacktower and Asleeps! flapping away on the floor, in rubbish bins etc. Eventually you will find your Dub, with a happy kingdumb smile and an empty bag. At least in about 10 years time, when magazines are a thing of the past and we've all got ipads and tablets, Dubs will be hanging around with a memory stick offering to 'juice you up' with creamy rich spiritual goodness.

  The trees will be gone, and so will the oxygen, but at least we'll have kingdumb truth.
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  After reading this - is it possible to 'doubt' that Jw's would hide Pedophiles?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  'What he does about paying his debt to society is largely up to him and his conscience'.

  So admitting murder is now a conscience matter, like blood, eh? The fact that he didn't reveal this matter to the elders before he was baptized doesn't make his baptism null and void? But he CAN be possibly DF'ed for smoking a joint.

  I can hear a gnat being strained out ...
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  Top 10 reasons why JWs don't have the truth - please contribute

  by oldlightnewshite in

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  2. beliefs

  i thought it would be an interesting exercise to ask everybody on here what their 'top 10 reasons why jws don't have the truth' actually were.

  maybe we can see some correlating views/patterns/ideas that may help us de-programme the newbies that come on this site.

  if eventually most people have an outstanding gripe/concern it'll help everybody understand the ex-jw mindset a little better.

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  oldlightnewshite

  Hey, Debator/Reniiaa,

  You kind of just answered your own question there...the requirements to be false prophets and the Bible simply says they have to claim inspiration

  Coffee-black's posting of the Watchtower says 'today they are known as Jehovah's Christian Witnesses.' (talking about prophets)

  Everybody's trying to make it simple for you! I think it's commendable that you try to persuade people on here, you obviously have a strong faith, but you do know that you're partaking from the table of demons? Don't you? I used to go to visit Russellites on the ministry but was expressly forbidden by the elders. I was quite sure of my faith and the accuracy of my arguement. You seem to be doing the same thing, with the same mindset as I once had, debating issues with who you considered unbelievers. I really do hope a lot of your conversations you've had on here will at some point help you to question your beliefs in doctrine. We have all more or less come to the same conclusion that the Watchtower Society is a rudderless ship. We have all come to this idea independently, with no influence by a certain group. This is all independent conclusions.There are thousands and thousands of us that arrived here by our own thought processes. Doesn't this at least make you the slightest bit suspicious of the WatchTower doctrine?

  As I say, keep coming and posting. You afford more people the chance to re-affirm in their own minds the fact that the WatchTower is misguided, by their written answers to you.
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  The Watchtower is now the world's largest magazine!

  by life is to short in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  newsmaxs magazine just published an article that the watchtower is the most read magazine out there it evens surpasses time.. i have never heard of newmaxs but i just was emailed this and thought you might find it interesting.

  i am sorry i do not know how to give the link so i am cutting and pasting.

  if someone can do the link it would be great.

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  oldlightnewshite

  I find that WT and Asleep magazine are very poor for lighting fires. They just don't burn. We had loads that we saved up for winter, but they were useless. Even once the fire was going well, adding them only put the fire out. They're no good for puppy training either, not big enough, and the ink sticks to the tiles. Has anybody seriously found a good use for them at all?
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  how fast is your internet connection?

  by Dogpatch in

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  verizon fios is killer!

  we have 5 roommates so can split the faster speed cost ($15 more).. using: http://www.speedtest.net/index.php?nojs=1.

  anyone get figures like this?

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  oldlightnewshite

  Mine is D/L 4.48, U/L 0.40, Ping 36ms.

  Pretty poor. My SP is billed as the best in the whole country! I live in a rural area, 10 KMS from a major city.
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  Another LIE in December 8th Awake page 28

  by Sherilynn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  once again that mysterious 20 years pops up in jw chronology forcing the 607 date for the 1914 date, blah, blah, blah.

  http://www.jw.org/index.html?option=qryqcsvrgznt partial quote below from page 28: .

  those prophecies of destruction were fulfilled in 632 b.c.e.

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  '...But it is not a lie to express a conviction...'

  My arse can play the banjo.

  Am I lying?

  It is my conviction. How dare you call me a liar?
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  Top 10 reasons why JWs don't have the truth - please contribute

  by oldlightnewshite in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought it would be an interesting exercise to ask everybody on here what their 'top 10 reasons why jws don't have the truth' actually were.

  maybe we can see some correlating views/patterns/ideas that may help us de-programme the newbies that come on this site.

  if eventually most people have an outstanding gripe/concern it'll help everybody understand the ex-jw mindset a little better.

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  Hey Coffee, Sorry about your dad. I've often thought about that change in policy on transplants and whether many people had been affected by it. That's gotta make you choke when it was just 2 years after. That's one thing I vowed to change once I finally left. I am now the proud owner of an organ donor card. The 'No Blood' card went in the bin years ago. Somebody should maybe start a thread on here about encouraging everyone to consider signing up for one. In the UK when you sign up, it goes straight on the national health register so they can get to know straight away if they need to take something.

  Thanks to everyone who's contributed so far. Seems like most people's 'Spidey Sense' gets going with the prophecy BullSh*t and lack of love.
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  "A Day for a Year": I Need a Beer

  by Farkel in

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  everyone wants to find meaning and purpose in their life.

  people who have been taught to believe in the bible seek stuff in the bible to give them meaning in their life.

  some people make up stuff supposedly based on the bible to give them meaning in their life.. the watchtower society goes one step further: they make up stuff supposedly based on the bible to give their corporation meaning and importance in life.. far too many true believers have a difficult time accepting what should be obvious to any rational human: the bible meant exactly what it said.

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  Farkel's analysis is excellent, some good comments too. I remember having several bible studies over the year, and asking the conductor "What?" "What?" "I just don't get it..." In the end my brain started to bleed. Then later on, when I had bible studies of my own, and we came to the Day for a year bullshit, my brain started to bleed again trying to explain it to somebody else who clearly thought it was drivel.

  This is a good thread to keep alive. One day that Farkel might make Circus Oversneer!
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  The funniest/weirdest/dumbest Disfellowshipping offences.....Share!

  by oldlightnewshite in

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  everybody must know of a funny/weird/dumb disfellowshipping offence.

  here's mine:.

  i moved to a new congregation and was related this story by a sister with the most deadly serious face.

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  oldlightnewshite

  Everybody must know of a funny/weird/dumb disfellowshipping offence. here's mine:

  I moved to a new congregation and was related this story by a sister with the most deadly serious face. She said ......

  A couple of years ago this guy got DF'ed because while his JW neighbour (two doors away) went out to the meeting, he stayed home and decided to rob that person of their brand-spankin' new coffee machine. The DF'ed brother broke in, lifted the shiny new machine up and away he went. A couple of hours later, he got a knock on the door. He opened it and found the neighbour Sister with a couple of elders and they didn't look too happy. He said 'what's up?'. They glared at him and pointed to the floor. There was a trail of coffee grinds from his house to the sisters house and her broken window. You're thinking... What a tw*t! -right?

  After the story I laughed my arse off, but the sister who told the story was stony faced. Apparently SHE was the sister with the coffee maker, and the DF'ed guy was her brother-in-law. Don't tell anyone I told you, because it's a bad Witness and stuff like that doesn't happen in perfect JW land!

  ...god, we are bad people
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  Those Awkward Moments

  by JustKeepLiving in

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  okay, here's the story.

  i have very recently been declared da'd publicly.

  we all know what that means.

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  Just be normal and smile. It's normal to be normal. You aren't a JW anymore, so show them what normal is! I still smile to people that have shunned me, even though I haven't officially disassociated myself or been DA'd by the congregation. For me, 7 times out of 10 I get a good response. Even though it's doctrine, I think they all secretly detest having to be obnoxious. While I was 'in' I always used to say hi to DF'd.

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