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  If you have kids who are being exposed to JW beliefs

  by Libelle in

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  it's becoming clearer and clearer that i need to muster some sort of strategy for countering the mr's indoctrination of the kids.

  now some of these kids are stepkids, so that makes it a bit hairier.

  but for our youngest, i will need to think about how to teach her other things too.

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  oldlightnewshite

  Having grown up as a JW from infancy, I would suggest you need to break the chain of thought that Jehovah is this personal god who looks down on your kids and watches everything they do. The indoctrination that they need to be worried/guilty about anything they do is something that runs deep for JW kids. If Jehovah is not real to them, they won't be pressured into thinking that questioning is wrong. A parent's example is a powerful thing. A child will take notice of how their parent acts, and be persuaded to think that they too should do things jehovah's way. If their parent sees jehovah as a real person, the child will be likely to follow suit.

  It will be difficult to try and show your children that your other half can be wrong about something, while at the same time trying to maintain your children's respect for his opinion. I would say try and teach them a bit about all religion, and get them to try and understand how different religions started/developed etc. Try and include the JWs in your discussions, so they can see religion in a broader spectrum.
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  Are you afraid of the Ouija board still?

  by cyberjesus in

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  do you think it has superpowers?

  who controlls it?

  satan?

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  oldlightnewshite

  I tried it once with a friend when I was a little kid and got zilch. I was a JW kid and knew it was wrong and thought something bad was gonna happen. I think the best way to test if it works is to make your own board out of rough sandpaper, and cover it with a really sticky syrup. If the planchette moves on that, then you've got your answer.
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  To be or not to be

  by justbreathe825 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my bf is one of jw mainly to please his parents, since he doesn't believe half the stuff they preach.

  now i'v been going to the meetings for over 2 years partly because is pretty much the only way i'd get his parents approval.

  i am in the process of studying the bible to become baptized.

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  oldlightnewshite

  Welcome Justbreathe. You're really lucky to find this forum at this stage in your life. Lots of people on here are recovering after watching half their life disappear down the toilet. LWT is right. Run! Run like hell! Every hour you spend at the meetings is an hour of your life that the society has stolen from you, and can never be taken back. You'll probably encounter lots of bitterness on this forum, and rightly so. Just take notice of everybody's feelings and learn from it. The Watchtower is evil, and their belief system is flawed. Don't waste another moment of your life doing any more meetings/personal study/field ministry. You cannot put a price on time. It's yours, don't let them take it away from you!

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  Current guidelines for assembly speakers

  by billyboy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  these are the instructions currently given to brothers who have parts on assemblies or special days.

  note that beards are still officially a no-no.. please read and follow carefully the following information: the material is to be.

  presented extemporaneously.

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  I know an elder who has a beard like SANTA. Okay, if it's well trimmed and dark coloured like jesus, but FULL FACE and WHITE!?! I'm just waiting for the day when he gets some half-moon glasses, and rosy cheeks from being out in the ministry in a harsh winter.

  He's gonna stumble so many if he doesn't shave it off.

  A lack of consideration in this matter could disturb some in the audience and detract from the programme

  Tee hee!
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  Are Atheists open minded? are you?

  by cyberjesus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some people accuse atheists of not being open minded for not believing in the existence of a creator.

  but is not believing a sign of close mindedness?

  can you believe in god and be open minded?.

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  Nice vid. Shame about the cheesy Marvel comics graphics though! I'm an atheist, (but I still like to listen to Coast To Coast). It annoys people and they get tetchy when I ask for empirical evidence for something being a true fact. I don't think it's unreasonable to want to see evidence before you agree with something. Why let your opinion be swayed so cheaply?
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  started a firestorm on facebook

  by mimimimi in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last friday i posted something supportive of gays on facebook - it was as follows: put this on your status if you know or love someone who is gay.

  my wish is that people will understand that being gay is not a disease nor a choice- people who are gay are not looking for a cure but acceptance and equal rights... 93% won't copy and paste this.

  will you make it your ...status for at least one hour?

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  oldlightnewshite

  It's good that you put this on your status. The reaction from your niece probably opened up their eyes to what JWs believe. Even though you probably had several people reply, you maybe had even more just read it with their mouths open. Even though many religions are softening their stance to sexuality, the general public maybe aren't aware of the JW view.

  Borg 0 Morality 1

  Result.
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  Anyone any profound experience?

  by bez in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since leaving the borg a couple month back i have as some of you know seemed to get lower and lower.

  my friends have slowly but surely drifted and we (my hubby and i) are treated very much like 'apostates' now and have been tried to be shoved out by them trying to get us to da ourselves.

  and now i feel quite lost and am really struggling.. at first i continued to pray to god, believing he was listening and i could draw comfort from the inner peace i seemed to feel???

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  I'll be honest with you, even during my strong periods 'in the truth', I never really thought that god heard my prayers. I used to delude myself into thinking that it was the same for everyone. As an example, I had several opportunities to further my career and make a lot of money, while telling Jehovah that I could work less, and do more ministry. Basically, I could make a fortune on commission, and have triple the amount of time available to pursue theocratic goals, and contribute a lot to the KH fund. Absolutley nothing happened.

  I've had to put up with friends sending me to coventry, and family giving me the cold shoulder. I can't say that I wasn't bothered by this, as, like you, I knew fully what to expect. I'd say it's just plain old depression that you've got. You need to fill your life with interesting things to do. Meet new people, and realise that 'worldly' people are just people. Originally, when I left I had this idea that I wasn't going to associate with worldly people. I needed to just get in touch with reality.

  I can't advise you of spiritual things, as I'm now an atheist. However, I really do marvel at life, nature, our planet, and how damn lucky I am to be alive. I like to read books and watch programmes about nature, history, science, anthropology etc, and it's enough for me. I live in a really beautiful part of the earth, and sometimes when I go out for walks in the mountains, I'm left breathless at the beauty. Maybe you can find your spirituality somewhere else other than a book.

  If you want someone to listen to you, just come on here. Some people just rant, and it does them a power of good

  x Oldlight
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  Should/Can I turn them in?

  by AwSnap in

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  what are my options?

  i have recently found out that someone close to me is receiving medicaid and in the process of getting food stamps.

  this is so unfair and annoying.

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  Just dob them in. They're taking the p*ss out of everybody else who works.

  Your gut told you it was wrong. Go with it.
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  Children of 1975

  by d in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what was it like to live in the 1950's 1960's and early 70's as a jehovah witness.when they started to push the 1975 date..

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  oldlightnewshite

  We lived miserably, like tramps for years because of this crackpot religion. Always taking the low-paid part-time jobs. We got a pitiful education and never went to college. We lived in fear. I am picking up the pieces of a shattered life ruined by an evil religion.

  Jehovah is like an evil child teasing a puppy with a biscuit. "You want this? You want it? Here y'go, take it.....nah, sorry. Okay, now you can have it...psych!"

  Debator, you have to agree that your Governing Body is getting its' chain yanked by their god. Where do they get their inspiration from? It changes like the wind. My personal favourite is 'Millions now living will never die'. 'NOW' does not mean/read 'MAY'.
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  an apostate encounter with JW's in a chapel

  by ninja in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  was at a wedding yesterday......catholic wedding.....my witness wifes family.

  behind sat my in laws and another couple of witnesses from up inverness way....."the foys" who are also extended family.

  as soon as the priest came out for the ceremony.....i could hear clearly from behind.....from the four of them.

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  oldlightnewshite

  Ha! I bet they hated every minute. My family recently did a wedding. Same situation. I thought they were going to burst into flames for entering a church. Woman vicar, too. It doesn't get any better than this.