Posts by oldlightnewshite

They were deeply rooted in Polytheism, and also had very localized deities in some parts of the empire. I can't understand why they would want to fabricate a monotheistic religion based on a middle eastern faith. Respect for their own pantheon of gods bordered on nationalism. they praised power and victory. I think a religion based on love and consideration would be very alien to them, and they would just see it as weakness.

Also, this happened around the time of the jewish revolt. There were probably several self proclaimed messiahs. If you wanted to invent a new deity, just for arguments sake, you would want his circumstances and appearance to be unique.... not embroiled within an uprising, revolt, and appearance of many crazy zealots.

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Powerful questions to DEBUNK the Universal Sovreignty issue

by Black Man in

ok, we've had some great posts about the universal sovreignty issue over the years.

i'd like to have this post be about powerful common-sense questions that get right to the core of unraveling it for the nonsense it is.

when i talk to jw relatives, i'm sticking with the strategy of just posing questions instead of arguing with them.

oldlightnewshite

I always thought the issue of Universal Sovereignty was to prove before the multitude of angels that jah had the authority to rule. I would assume that the angels were created immediately cogniscent, unlike humans, who become self-aware at around 5 years old, and can retain memories. Angels would remember immediately as they were created, the fact that they had been created. There would be no need for faith on their part that Jehovah created them. It would follow that he had authority to rule, being their creators. They would have witnessed his creation of the universe and planets, mankind and animals. It seems totally illogical that he would then have to vindicate his right to rule before eyewitnesses in heaven.

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What did you do with all your old publications?

by Dark Fader in

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so we had spent years building our "theocratic library" of bound volumes, books and other materials.

personally, i boxed everything, taped the boxes closed and threw them in a dumpster at a construction site.. i did actually feel bad though.

that was a lot of paper which could have been recycled!.

oldlightnewshite

I burned all mine on my log fire. I 've noticed that with all WT literature, they don't burn very well at all. The WT and Asleep magazines actually put out my fire if I use a lot of them at once. Poor quality paper. At least they're consistent in every way.

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Is There a Such Thing as Progressive Understanding?

by Recovery in

is there such a thing as progressive understanding of god's will?

a simple yes or no will suffice, but if you'd like to state why, please by all means do so..

oldlightnewshite

I believe that making grandiose statements and predictions about earth-shattering events like the big A on behalf of almighty god, is tantamount to pulling Jehovah's underpants down in public.

Jehovah has lost all credibility, his so-called organization didn't quite have any to begin with. I don't see any examples in the bible of Jehovah playing 'Psych' for a laugh with his prophets and mouthpieces on earth.

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Favorite JW Urban Legends

by Christ Alone in

what are your favorite urban legends that you heard as a jw?.

here's mine:.

a brother, through his work, was asked to give a speech to the united nations.

oldlightnewshite

A circuit Overseer (yeah, right) joins a chat site online, then strikes up a rapport with another person online. Her avatar is some hot chick. Eventually, he ensnared by her dirty talk and decides to leave his wife. He leaves his wife, gets DF'd, and decides to get a plane ticket to the states to meet this smokin' hot woman. He meets her at the airport, and instaed of being some fit 30 year old, she is a 60 year old hag with teeth missing etc.

Moral of the story? Don't use the internet, unless it's to use JW.org. and don't lust after younger, hotter women.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Watchtower SUICIDE . How many JW suicides can you recall?

by Anti-Cult in

how many jw suicides can you recall?.

is it more common than the rest of society?.

i personally know of 5.

oldlightnewshite

I know of one person who was a JW, I also knew a non JW

The JW killed himself over guilt and left a wife and child, the non-JW killed herself because she had depression.