Posts by Curtains

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My Labrador died can anyone please help me. I can't stand the pain.

by Witness 007 in

my wife recovered from depression just 14 months ago and things have been going well.....so much so that i started a buisness for her and we are two weeks into it.

my labby was ill vomiting abit of discomfort, i thought great, you ate something bad again!

the vet gave him a shot and sent us home.

i've been thinking alot over the past few days on what makes a christian a christian, and i'm coming to some different conclusions than i ever have.... the watchtower likes to use the term "true believers" or "true christians".

i'm at a loss here lately.

you are either an atheist or you are not.

Curtains

thanks for sharing your research zid. lots I can agree with. Polytheism acknowledges the importance of the feminine whereas monotheism tends to be purely masculine. I think holy spirit could incorporate the feminine if believers would let her. However I don't see evidence of this in this thread so will assume believers don't.

I particularly like these points, zid,

I've said it before, I'll say it again - religion itself evolved - or perhaps devolved, as the range of options SHRANK... Polytheism was generally the RULE in older civilizations, not monotheism...

And Monotheism, by its very nature, LIMITS the number of deities available for worship. Therefore, the period of time in which Polytheism was common would NATUARLLY have MORE deities - and more methods of worship - than our modern, monotheistic world.

So, it didn't start out with "someONE"... It started out in MANY locations with many different kinds of humans... It WASN'T homogenous; it was - again - POLYtheistic, with a WIDE VARIETY of deities and methods of worship...

these points are a fantastic rebuttal to the theme of htis thread and sorely needed.

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Please Welcome "saltyoldlady"!!!

by Yan Bibiyan in

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a new member "saltyoldlady" just joined the board on the introductory thread of another new member here.

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i didn't want the op's thread highjacked, so please welcome saltyoldlady on this thread.. .

Curtains

hi saltyoldlady - thanks for the suggestions

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Are you a TRUE Christian?!?

by brotherdan in

i've been thinking alot over the past few days on what makes a christian a christian, and i'm coming to some different conclusions than i ever have.... the watchtower likes to use the term "true believers" or "true christians".

i'm at a loss here lately.

you are either an atheist or you are not.

Curtains

perry

Of course, there are sheep on many hills. Fundamentalists teach and preach this.

what complete twaddle.

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Are you a TRUE Christian?!?

by brotherdan in

i've been thinking alot over the past few days on what makes a christian a christian, and i'm coming to some different conclusions than i ever have.... the watchtower likes to use the term "true believers" or "true christians".

i'm at a loss here lately.

you are either an atheist or you are not.

Curtains

The finger

Curtains,

The Ex Witness who said to me "There are sheep on many hills" I think was quoting from a book.

sounds like an interesting book

a true christian needs to undergo metamorphosis and this can lead to huge differences between christians. I think I get what you are saying. Seeking god does not lead to unity and sameness.

edit: but perhaps I've misunderstood you, the finger. Nevertheless the bible verses you bring to ding's attention provide food for thought so thanks for mentioning them.

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Are you a TRUE Christian?!?

by brotherdan in

i've been thinking alot over the past few days on what makes a christian a christian, and i'm coming to some different conclusions than i ever have.... the watchtower likes to use the term "true believers" or "true christians".

i'm at a loss here lately.

you are either an atheist or you are not.

Curtains

finger I so agree with you and particularly like your "sheep on many hills" analogy.

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Anyone else get stabbed in the back?

by WontLeave in

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i was a gung-ho advocate for jws.

i got on the message boards and would argue down any detractor, apostate, church pastor, disgruntled ex-jw, you name it... i was out in the ministry constantly, practically running from door to door, preaching.

i started studies left and right.

Curtains

In a nutshell you are a disturber of the peace wontleave. An independent and free thinker. Such people threaten established order and are disfellowshipped for this reason. Many here have trodden this path.

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Are you a TRUE Christian?!?

by brotherdan in

i've been thinking alot over the past few days on what makes a christian a christian, and i'm coming to some different conclusions than i ever have.... the watchtower likes to use the term "true believers" or "true christians".

i'm at a loss here lately.

you are either an atheist or you are not.

Curtains

brotherdan, Jehovahs witnesses are simply following the example Jesus sets - John 4:23 - 24

23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

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Who are the Pharisees today?

by dothemath in

i find many similiarities between the pharisees and witnesses today......... both used disfellowshipping as a weapon (john 12: 42........"because of the pharisees they would not confess.

him, in order not to be expelled from the synagogue").

both add endless rules, yet forget about the important ones, such as love, etc.

Curtains

Juanmiguel

It would be best to abandon Watchtower terminology, which is insulting to the basic dignity of people who embrace beliefs and philosophies that differ from the JWs. It would be more accurate to say that the WT acts like those early enemies of the first century congregation. The Jews have received enough persecution through the centuries without ex-JWs adding to the anti-semetic heap.

thanks for pointing this out to us. It is quite horrorfying how much hate speech is second nature to us. I would not want to offend Jews in any way, so will not perpetuate such value laden derogatory terms.

It is so easy to fall into the same pattern of JW hate speech against Jehovahs witnesses. It is still hate speech guys. I'm not saying it is not okay to express vehement emotion but to be aware that when we start questioning Jehovahs witness culture we are at the same time stepping into wider society that asks us what harmful things we are bringing out with us. What is our reply going to be?

so dothemath, continue doing the math as it can be quite shocking to find that as JWs when pointing one finger at the world around meant that we pointed the rest back at ourselves.

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University student's JW based honors thesis research. PLEASE HELP!

by honorsthesis in

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/defectedmembers_honorsthesis.

hello community,.

my name is brett w., and i am senior undergraduate student at the university of florida.

Curtains

honourthesis I have done the survey and as crazyblondeb says nothing in the survey can identify anyone.

Many on this board identify Jehovahs witnesses with extreme right wing fundamentalism.

Curtains

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