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  Method for Identifying the Faithful Slave & Channel of God's Truth

  by saltyoldlady in

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  barks & snorts - is their major means of communication barks and snorts?

  matt 7:6 - "do not give holy things to dogs nor cast pearls before swine lest they trample them under their feet and turn and rip you open.

  my application of the above - my loyalty to an org might be considered a "holy thing".

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  right on saltyoldlady this is our basic thought process at the meetings.
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  What is it with all the men waking up but the wives stay in? Why is it the opposite for me?

  by Cadellin in

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  this is something i've thought about for a while now.

  it seems like the same story on this board over and over--the husband, who also might be an elder, ms, etc.--starts having doubts and researching, aka miseryloveselders and franklin massey and others.

  he starts to smell the coffee and realizes that this organization isn't what it claims to be.

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  my perception is that more men are staying in nowadays and more men are getting baptized. Today JW women have more and more access to education and jobs and are finding they have huge resources - they can feel and think - commonsensical stereotyping from the past and the present no longer holds true.

  cadellin, I don't think your perception re this board is inaccurate though. It may be that when women leave a higher proportion choose other networking sites or divide their time more evenly between here and there.

  edit: another point that could skewer the figures is that there are more married men in the congregation than single but more single women than single men.
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  Heck, Why Stop At One?

  by AGuest in

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  cmdr.

  locke: "gawdammit, morpheus.

  not everybody believes what you believe!".

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  just in from bethel

  Also - I should probably qualify my critique on high count posters- some of them are priceless with incredible amounts of quality content. I just find it mind-numbing to see the ones that repeat over and over the same defense of the same imaginary friends or throw out scripture after scripture with no evidence of the scriptures being relevant, much less from any supernatural god. I also know many more who are awesome high posters, grounded in reality, and have great lives outside JWN and are way more balanced than myself with less addictive personalities.

  I so agree with your sentiments.

  TEC, thanks for explaining. I hope you see beyond christ one day, holy spirit can do this
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  Heck, Why Stop At One?

  by AGuest in

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  cmdr.

  locke: "gawdammit, morpheus.

  not everybody believes what you believe!".

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  TEC

  Curtains, I'm not sure why length of posting time matters?

  Is this a serious question? I'm genuinely not sure. Length of posting time matters because an individual has had relatively greater opportunity to engage with posters here, make friends, gain posting confidence, learn from mistakes through interaction, go for therapy too, etc. Shelby has probably done all these things.

  Recommending that she seek therapy is legit imo on a board like this. How is that attacking character? They are simply responding to her posts.

  Curtains, some do people have fun at Shelby's expense, and often. She is often misunderstood in what she says as well, but there are also many posters here who love her, and do understand her... even if they do not always agree with her.

  TEC, shelby has had a lot of fun at the expense of newbies. They may have their own private traumas and may be as fragile if not more so than she is. Have you considered this? BTW I love shelby too and when I disagree with her, or when anyone else disagrees with her, I don't consider that they are expressing what you or she ascribe to them. I know I don't anyway and I do not think the posters on this thread did either.
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  Heck, Why Stop At One?

  by AGuest in

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  cmdr.

  locke: "gawdammit, morpheus.

  not everybody believes what you believe!".

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  Tammy, isn't it a little unfair that you are defending aguest, a long time poster with over 6000 posts under her belt, against 2 newbies who together have under a 1000 posts?
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  Heck, Why Stop At One?

  by AGuest in

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  cmdr.

  locke: "gawdammit, morpheus.

  not everybody believes what you believe!".

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  aguest, I see you are having fun and drama with your misunderstandings. carry on ... but I hope the one who whispers in your ear is there for you when others decide to have some fun too at your expense.
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  Are you a TRUE Christian?!?

  by brotherdan in

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  i've been thinking alot over the past few days on what makes a christian a christian, and i'm coming to some different conclusions than i ever have.... the watchtower likes to use the term "true believers" or "true christians".

  i'm at a loss here lately.

  you are either an atheist or you are not.

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  SA/aguest

  I'm happy to leave it at that then

  peace to you too!
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  Wow, This is Getting Tougher!

  by Franklin Massey in

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  i'm having a really hard time giving my meeting parts.

  i had a service meeting part this week and i could hardly get through it.

  i am no longer convinced of some of the things jws teach and so i try to either eliminate those things from my parts, or reword them so that i'm not speaking about that which i do not personally believe.

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  Hoffnung mentions some good points. A local witness also does the same. A couple of points they brought out recently were

  In commenting on John 14:12 (Jesus followers doing works greater than him)

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  We truly have done works greater than Jesus just as Jesus said we would. He began his preaching campaign at the age of 30 and continued working intensively for 3 1/2 years. Whereas many here have been preaching from childhood.

  another time in commenting on Matthew 24:45 Who really is the faithful and discreet slave ...

  they said: This is a marvellous verse for interrogating false religion as it's importance lies in the fact that it is a question. And this question can be put to all religions and they must provide an answer to Jesus Christ. Of course Jehovahs witnesses have already replied to this question.

  edit: however if you feel that you would be letting your brothers and sisters down it is best not to use these tactics. the person who makes these sorts of comments has been fading for some time now and has come to terms with their own interaction with Jehovahs witnesses.
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  Are you a TRUE Christian?!?

  by brotherdan in

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  i've been thinking alot over the past few days on what makes a christian a christian, and i'm coming to some different conclusions than i ever have.... the watchtower likes to use the term "true believers" or "true christians".

  i'm at a loss here lately.

  you are either an atheist or you are not.

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  aguest in your line by line replies, it is clear to me that you are misunderstanding and delimiting what zid is saying.

  A general point I will make and which I feel agrees with what Zid is saying is that the worship she describes has a multiplying effect whereas monothieism has a subtracting effect - subtracting down to one. And then monothieism when taken to suggest a single start does not allow for the fact singleness is absent in nature - what we have instead is profusion. So I would suggest saying always profusion and abundance. Archaelogocal and anthropological evidence supports this idea of profusion and always is a much more liberating way of seeing existence.

  The Noah story perhaps testifies to having to make a new start after some sort of cataclysm (of which there have been many). Although the story possibly relates to a real life event, I see it as one of many such stories and as having been experienced not just by humans.
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  Are you a TRUE Christian?!?

  by brotherdan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been thinking alot over the past few days on what makes a christian a christian, and i'm coming to some different conclusions than i ever have.... the watchtower likes to use the term "true believers" or "true christians".

  i'm at a loss here lately.

  you are either an atheist or you are not.

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  I would not take up the story of worship with SOMEONE as you suggest Aguest. To me plants, animals etc present themselves as meditating in worship, for example in turning towards the sun. One only needs to look at them to feel their calming meditative influence. No someone here. You can keep your guy/someone who talks in your ear. I prefer the babbling brook of nature.

  edit: And in returning to the title of this thread, what could be more true than that?