Posts by snakeface

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If I do not go and speak with the elders by Sunday, then he will speak with them on my behalf.

by TimothyT in

my friend called round before and has just left.

he told me that he was worried about me and that he wanted to speak to me as to why i havnt been going to the meetings or on the field service.

i told him that im just not discussing the reasons at all.

snakeface

I've found the link and decided to post it here because others might benefit from it, gay or not. It's from the site gaychurch.org http://www.gaychurch.org/Gay_and_Christian_YES/gay_and_christian_yes.htm

For example I scrolled down to "Sodom and Gomorrah" and learned quite a bit! This passage is not about "gay sex" but rather male rape. God did not destroy those people because of homosexuality (didn't the citizens have wives and children?) but because of violence. Also, Jesus himself never commented on the subject of homosexuality. Apparently (or can we say "evidently"?) it was not even an issue with him.

Sorry to get away from the original poster's topic, but I feel this is helpful information that can help him and all of us disabuse our minds.

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If I do not go and speak with the elders by Sunday, then he will speak with them on my behalf.

by TimothyT in

my friend called round before and has just left.

he told me that he was worried about me and that he wanted to speak to me as to why i havnt been going to the meetings or on the field service.

i told him that im just not discussing the reasons at all.

snakeface

I see that some posters have mentioned various gay-accepting religions which is a good idea. Check out Unity Church unity.org and United Church of Christ ucc.org/lgbt/

On one of those 2 sites (I can't find it now) I read some very enlightening information about the scriptures commonly misused to condemn homosexuality. If I find it I'll PM the links to you because they are very encouraging.

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If I do not go and speak with the elders by Sunday, then he will speak with them on my behalf.

by TimothyT in

my friend called round before and has just left.

he told me that he was worried about me and that he wanted to speak to me as to why i havnt been going to the meetings or on the field service.

i told him that im just not discussing the reasons at all.

snakeface

As Rocky Girl said, they only have as much authority over you as you allow. You've already said you don't want to discuss it with them. So if they approach you, just keep saying that even though you don't owe them any answer at all.

If a police officer pulls you over, you are required to show him whatever documentation he requests (license, car registration, etc). If you receive a supeona for a court appearance, you are required to go and to answer the judge's questions.

However, the elders are not in such positions of authority. They are not police officers, they are not court judges. They have no more authority over you than I do. They have seen that you have not been at meetings. Now they know (thanks to this tattle-tale false friend) is it not because you have been in the hospital or overseas or are dead; they can conclude the reason you haven't been there is simply because you do not want to be. They don't need a college degree to figure that out. Nothing else is owed to them.

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Do you know of any witnesses that went to Jail/Prison? What did they do?

by Iamallcool in

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snakeface

I know of a few separate cases where murders were comitted during robberies and the offenders got death sentences.

If your county sheriff's office has a website where you can look up public records, start doing searches on names of people in your ciricuit. You'll be surprised at what you'll find. In my county I found out that one elder had been arrested for indecent exposure. Several other brothers had DUI's, and others had driving-related arrests such as driving with a suspended license, attaching a tag from a different vehicle, and so on.

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Next time someone says "as JWs were all imperfect but it's still God's Organization"....

by RagingBull in

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after seeing some vids and links yesterday about the society's intrest in hedge funds, as well as being in the united way (they have a code for donations thru the united way) i decided to search the wt cd to see if anything negative was said about either.

look what i found;.

from the 2/15/1972 watchtower.

snakeface

marking? Isn't that something feral cats do?

When someone says it's still God's organization even though everyone in it is imperfect....here's an illustration, such witnesses seem to like illustrations:

Suppose there's only one hospital in town. You need medical attention, but you know that your neighbor got an infection in that hospital and was also billed improperly. Over the years some of the doctors and nurses have been charged with malpractice and some are now in prison. Some patients have died on the operating table; others may have been molested by the custodian. The doctors have at times given wrong diagnoses and have had to take patients off their meds and start them on different meds. Many patients are on the internet, posting about the bad care they received there and how they are doing much better under the care of a different set of doctors in the next town. The staff at this hometown hospital, however, keeps warning the townspeople not to go to that other hospital because they will die if they do.

You need medical attention. Just because "some" of the staff there are imperfect, it is still the only hospital in town (just like "in Noah's day there was only one ark.") . What would you do?

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How to reply to "I want to do more for the truth"?

by gutted in

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hey guys,.

a little background first.

i have a friend who knows i am inactive, or at least knows i am doing little to nothing for the truth.

snakeface

Witnesses are brainwashed into thinking that if they are unhappy, it is because they need to do more with the truth, and that will make them happy. Yet most of the human race is not doing anything with the truth, and how many of them are happy?

Happiness is an emotion. If this friend is happy it is because his emotional needs are not being met. He is depriving himself of something he wants, which would fulfill his needs.

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this is from a witness yahoo email group - It is just so telling

by therevealer in

the other day a bible student who is married said she found out her husband is sending msn messages and email to women saying he want to have relationship with her, and indicates he is single.

my student asked me if sexting or sending emails talking about sex grounds for a divorce in jehovah's eyes.

i tried doing reseach on this but i can't seem to find information about sexting.

snakeface

This publisher asks, "Can anyone give me ideas what I can look up for her?" My answer: phone numbers for marriage counselors.

Maybe the husband is doing this because she is studying?

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Does anyone know about the 2010 songbook?

by aristeas in

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i only recently found out that there was a new songbook 'released' last year.

i came in under the old pink flexi-cover one.

then in 1984 that oversized 225 song brown one came out.

snakeface

And they did take out that song about "Precious gifts from God our children are, a possession to train.....They are gifts from God. He says 'use the rod'..."

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What is your standing in a congregation if you're a man of 40 and never married?

by dgp in

on a different thread (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/211210/3/my-life-well-the-first-part-at-least.

someone commented that.

as a sister especially you are nothing when not attached to you husband.. this made me curious.

snakeface

Billy, the $ is a definitely a factor. At one time I was in a rather low-income congregation but everyone knew I was not only single and a MS but also made a lot of $. Most of the ocngregation had 15 yr old cars whereas mine was within 2 years old. Had single sisters showing up at my house all the time. Many would keep calling on the phone. Age didn't matter to them - I had $ and that's all they cared about. Some were 15 or 18 years older than me, others were 15 or 18 years younger than me. Older sisters would try to match me up with their nieces or other single sisters. I would keep telling them I don't want to get married, I just want to shack up. They would stalk me. I'd be under my car changing the oil on a Saturday afternoon, and they'd drive over, come and peek under the car.

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A Typical Witnessing Letter from JW Family

by mummatron in

thought i'd share this as this is a typical example of the kind of letters i get very occasionally from my jw family.

in this instance it was sent as my daughter had spent some time in hospital.

note, very little information in terms of family news.

snakeface

If I were to receive something like that I'd wipe my hiney with it and then send it back to them.